Couple/few comments, if I may (may you all have peace!) and then we really can move on, if all are willing. If not, well, let's see where we go.
First, dear Glad (peace to you!), my apologies for misunderstanding the "tone" of your statement. I would like to blame it on the course of the thread but that would be entirely accurate. I should have given you the benefit of the doubt.
Now, then: I really did want answers to my questions. I was not baiting anyone, but only trying to understand what I didn't (and still don't - will explain below. Maybe.)... and some of you said I SHOULD. Apparently, I didn't ask "right" ("Please, oh, please, dear believers in evolution, enlighten my poor stupid delusional mind and whatever you tell me I WILL believe because you say it is so... even if the 'evidence' doesn't quite show what you're saying it does..."). I am not being sarcastic. That is truly my perception of what has occurred with some... most... on this subject/thread.
As for the comment that "The evidence for evolution is an immense accumulation of facts from a wide variety of disciplines but we have already said that..." (and I can't recall who posted it, but peace to you, as well!), I would counter that that is exactly what religionists say. They use ancient writings, histories, archeology, anthropology, etc., as "proof" of their positions (i.e., certain people lived during certain times, various locations and artifacts SHOW that people, places, and events written about in the Bible did occur and... given the accumuation of these facts... it is evident that... such and so")... although none of these actually prove anything... but just make a whole lot of things seem likely. Which is what all of the "evidence" presented here does. And I did read the contents of each link (because, again, I really did want to know).
I understand that if we manipulate nature, well, heck, we can get all KINDS of things to occur. Perhaps even within "kinds" (I shudder, however, to think of the animals subjected to such "experiments"... all for the pleasure/curiosity of man. I digress). But, I GET that.
Dear Gerard (peace to you!) made a statement that might help you see, if you care to, where I am coming from. Maybe not. He wrote:
I do not believe there has been much philogeny (the evolutionary development and history of a species) done, mostly because of the great difficulty of obtaining DNA samples from fossils, as the organic material has been replaced by minerals. Is this a dead end? No. Molecular biology is a very new field and it is still in diapers - sort of speaking.
As I stated to dear Zid (peace to you!) earlier, apparently progress has been made in the area of DNA sampling from fossils (which some of you should have known but apparently didn't... which was also interesting to me). However, that sampling, regardless of its stage, diaper or otherwise... did not show what many folks thought it unequivocally would: that neanderthalensis and sapien are extremely different species. To the contrary, it showed SUCH a similarity between the two "species" that some are now saying they are actually the same species. I believe that, in time, science will show that it IS the same species, as are some of the others... but mutated (and some will be shown to be even other genuses - for example, pan, pongo, or gorilla). Science changes species designation... even genus designation... all the time.
But it is MOST interesting to ME that there hasn't even been "much philogeny" DONE... because the DNA couldn't even BE sampled. IMHO, it is all speculation... based on assumptions drawn from observing other "kinds"... which observations prove NOTHING within the hominid kind... homo genus... or sapien species.
So, dear ones, while I understand that perhaps it looks like... appears... seems likely... is reasonable to believe... and all whatever other qualifiers one might use to push the human evolution as a TRUTH...merely looking like... appearing... seeming likely... and being considered by others as reasonable to believe... is not sufficient for ME. Anymore than it is with regard to religion.
I hope this help clarify... and I don't really have anything more to contribute at this point.
However, I do wish you all peace, truly.
A slave of Christ,
P.S. I have to send a wish for peace specifically toward dear LC (peace to you!) and say, first, thank you, and... (1) I am VERY happy in my life, and not deliriously so, but due to the freedom I have received from my Lord, as well as my wonderful family and dear, dear friends, my puppies, my singing gigs, and my forthcoming agency; and (2) I have never tried to force anyone to believe what I do. That would actually go counter to the purpose for my service. I think most here know this, though.