It seems almost you come across as a kind of gunslinger. I could almost suspect you've taken a mind to make me see things the way you do, because you're 100% convinced you would prevail.
No, dear LC (again, peace to you!)... that is not my thinking at all. I have no ambition to make you do anything... or prevail. That's because, unlike a lot of others who believe they can convert another to "christianity", I TRULY believe the words of my Lord that "no one can come to the Father except through me," and "no one comes to the Son unless the Father draws them." I realize that a LOT of "christians" preach and proselytize because they wish to make "disciples." And I don't take issue with that so long as what they're stating has some semblance of truth (which excludes JWs, now).
But I am not here to proselytize, convert, or make disciples. Of anyone. For anyone. I have one goal... and that is to tell the truth as to the Most Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies, and His Son and Christ, my Lord, the Holy One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH. Whether folks hear or refrain. I do it out of love... and gratitude... and the hope that by "giving" in this way I can perhaps work out my salvation (and perhaps my household's), me a sinner (yet) and former hypocrite, who once walked in great darkness, alienated from God.
And I don't make that statement in mimic of any other, including other "christians" - I state it because I now know it is the truth. The ONLY thing that I could possibly have... or give... to the Most Holy One of Israel... and/or His Son... is to speak the truth about them whenever I speak about them.
And the reference to the WTS is maybe a little ironic. I don't want to convince you of anything, my dear.
No, I get that. I thought, however, your comments were about how both sides often overlook stating their own positions but stand on the shoulders of others. Which I totally agree with and so I shared that I try very hard not to do that but to speak from what I know. And am open if you wish to do the same thing, so long as we give one another the same regard and not reduce the discussion to petty anecdotes and childish name-calling.
You've got to get there by yourself and for that you need to open your mind.
Yes. Again, it is curious to me... and very reminiscent of the WTBTS... that "open mind" apparently means "be ready... and willing... to AGREE with me." Versus "be ready and willing to have a discussion and we'll see where we go." I have found, however, that like with JWs, with athesits it's very similar: it's not me who's afraid to "go."
I've been where you are and I was there a long, long time.
No, dear one, that's not possible. Where I WAS, perhaps. But where I AM... no sir, sorry. Of course, we've both probably been were some others are.
Have you been where I am?
I am not sure, because I don't now where you are. You haven't fully revealed that, so I can't say. I have no problem believing that I haven't, though. There are a WHOLE lot of places... and beliefs... where I haven't been.
Would you want to be where I am, if you were to arrive at the realisation that what you believe is an illusion?
You say that as if it would be the first time. It wouldn't. I arrived at the realization that the WTBTS' "golden calf" is an illusion. And some other revelations even before that which were even harder to grasp. But I got there. Each time. And I'm still standing. With my faith intact. Which I am not sure everyone can say (and many don't want to - which is fine by me).
No. Didn't think so.
You assume, dear one. You think I ask/invite because I am bluffing. I have no fear of what you might share, dear LC, and no agenda, truly. If God is with me, who can be against me? I should have nothing to fear. Heck, even walking through the valley of the shadow of death should be without fear - why not learning something about the physical universe. If He isn't and you're right, what have I lose but my belief system? This doesn't scare me.
I share what I do because it is the truth about God, Christ, spirits, things in the Bible, and things related. I do it because I was lied to and was a part of lying to others... about such persons/things. I have made a personal commitment, therefore... to myself, my children, my husband, my God... and my Lord... to NEVER lie to others about such things ever again... to state ONLY the truth, so long as and to the extent that I know it. It is the LEAST I can do.
And I do it, regardless of who listens, hears, believes, or accepts what I share. Because I am not doing it for them. Since I am no less human that you, however, I certainly know that I don't know the truth about such things. So, I must go to, listen to, and follow the One who does. That's it and that's all.
If you don't understand that, no worries - I totally understand that you might not.
Again, peace to you, truly!
YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,