by bottleofwater 64 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
So now what are they going to do ? Did they say this was an investigative meeting ? Will there be a JC next or were they satisfied you are just guilty of watching porn ?
How are you holding up under all of this pressure ? Must be hard going to school and also having this crap on your mind .((((mom hug )))
Definitely. They did not tell me about an investigative meeting upfront.
They also told me that they have to believe me saying "No" according to protocol after the last question.
You are getting a great deal of advice here, some very useful, some detrimental. This link has a list of community resources, just talking with someone from there can help you set a grounded course.
http://resources.lgbtcenters.org/Directory/States/New_York/33/Centers.aspx
Is this the same guy that another thread is going to pioneer while in college because apparently his dad is forcing him too?
I do not normally comment on personal threads but I've noticed a lot appear on this site that seem a bit manufactured?
You don't have to tell them anything.
God didn't put them in charge. They are only under the delusion he did.
BottleofWater, they hold no authority over you. Ignore them.
Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but there should be someone in authority at your college who you could talk to, and if necessary he/she could refer you to an individual or an organisation who specialise in offering councelling and/or practical help to young students in your situation. Surely it is not unheard of for gay students to need advice and guidance from time to time while they are struggling to overcome difficulties at home?
Some of you are really insane with the whole 'Your 19, lolz get out' bit. We all come here day in and day out and complain about the craziness we've all had because of the power we all gave to these people and your browbeating a 19 year old whose spent his whole life listening to these people for not being able to clearly see his options. And may be it never occured to you but like a lot of witness kids, how this religion stunts some kids (and pushes others to be the wildest out of the bunch) so a 19 year old can really not be that much different from a 16 year old? Does this kid sound mature to you all?
Stop it. Stop being being douchebags because its not easy to just up and take that power-at 19 and 'be your own man' when a good majority of us/you all either still do lie about your feelings about the WTBS to appease your family and keep peace or have done so some time in your life. So, knock it off! Wth, did you join the army or go to school right away? Did you not have to deal with the elders and their craziness or deal with the fear or losing your family?
Look bottleofwater, the way they are saying it may not be the nicest or appropriate way but they are right- you are your own person, seperate and apart from your family; but most people don't have to worry about the fear of losing their family for being who they are or what they believe in. In the culture we have and growing up the way most of us have grown up you probably have enough internalized homophobias that talking with any elder or person about your feelings may seem like the WORST THING EVER OMGZ.
You say you pioneered and its basically been your whole life- can I ask you if you still believe in it? Because I know back when I came out to myself I had mentally tortured myself for some time with the indecisiveness and your actions kind of remind me of my own and I laugh at my self now 'cause it seems like such a different person ago.
I get why you don't want to talk to the elders or anybody or get browbeating about your gay or any gayness or the troof and it may be hard but all you really have to do is just say you don't feel like talking about it right now. Hell, its the truth. You don't. You don't have to talk to anybody until your damn ready. Don't get mad at them though; your parents albiet in their own selfish and messed up way are just scared of losing you and will act and say some stupid and rash stuff that they'll eventually will hate themselves later on.
So, stop hiding and pick up the phone, call your dad and mom and tell him you don't feel like talking. Tell him that you're fine, everything will be okay, but you need space to think and that he needs to respect that. And after that, just breathe. Dont go out in field service, dont go to a meeting unless you want to and 'do you' as they say. They technically can't DF you until they have proof or reason and saying your gay isn't an automatic sentence.
So breathe, relax, go do something you like doing and yes little by little take back your control that you didn't know you had and enjoy your life!
Bottle...
You've given quite a bit of information on your situation, down to location. While it's good to find people who understand and are willing to share their experiences or give advice, I worry that you're giving too much info out here.
Anyone monitoring this site and recognizing the details will be able to put two and two together pretty damn easily. Just be careful...don't out yourself if you're not ready to.
Ok. I called my Dad today and he wants me to stop being a liar and gave me one chance to be fully honest with him.
I told him I'm not going to talk. He told me to go live my life and that he's not letting me come back home.
