Well, since you know so much, what, my dear, do you think I am afraid of? What do you think reality tells you?
Same thing we're all initially afraid of, dear NVL (peace to you!): being misled, again; being lied to; being though crazy and/or unstable; possible commitments related to what we might here, if anything; and death.
It what you stated.
Then your "nope" was inaccurate and misleading, wasn't it... and designed TO mislead. Why do that?
But what you stated is incomplete.
Ah, now, why not just say that? Why not, "not quite," or "that's not fully accurate"? Because you wanted those watching to think that, no, I didn't know at all. And that you do. That's a bit deceitful, dear NVL. Truly. It's not completely dishonest, but it not fully honest. See what I mean?
In order to even formulate a valid hypothesis it must be falsifiable.
Meaning that if it's false, such falsehood can be proven... which is what I stated...
Things that are falsifiable and tested can be proven true.
Okay, but that's now how I understand it. Or how I read the definition. My understanding is that things that are falsifiable can have their falsehood, if any, tested... and proven.
Something that proves true MUST be falsifiable.
Again, I do not read or understand it that way. My understanding is that something that proves true IS true (at least, as far as we understand truth)... but in order to test it, we must also be able to test it's falsifiability if it is NOT true.
what you wrote is not a hypothesis. Just like you did with falsifiability, jump over to wikipedia and get some links and learn how what one is and how to write it.
I jumped to several places... including wikipedia... after you said my understanding was wrong. Which you now say it was not. But since I am wrong even when I am not wrong... how 'bout YOU do the jumping this time? I gave you what you asked for and... again... you're stalling. So, in order that we can BOTH expedite this matter, what say YOU teach me. Why don't YOU tell me what one is... and how to write it, since YOU "know so much."
Ah, no. Those were not complete instructions. Try again. There was no "step 1, step 2", etc., etc.
Oh, my sincere apologies, truly, dear one. Here you go:
Step 1: Using faith [and, if granted, holy spirit], while you are in body or or in spirit
Step 2: Listen with YOUR spirit
Step 3: If you're unsure who's speaking
Step 4: Ask the speaker to identify himself
Step 5: Observe what you hear
Step 6: Tell others what you observed
Step 7: If they don't believe you, give them the steps and have them test it
In an effort to make me look as if what I shared with you was false, however, you next state and post from our PM:
Sure. You wrote [please see post above]:
But, ahhhh, yes... you once again left out some stuff... which, again, is a bit deceitful, isn't it? Since you obviously have no problem posting [some of] it here, however, let's post what I actually PM'd, shall we, so folks won't have to guess who's being truthful? For example, as to the above, you left out:
Even if she is a WTBTS stepford wife, your bearing false witness against her would have added injury to the insult and made YOUR error twice as bad. I was SO relieved when you defended her. I speak the truth to you, dear NVL. I realize that you don't get me, but that really is okay - I understand. But, no, my Lord doesn't tell what a man is wearing... what's on the OUTSIDE. He is a SPIRIT... and so what he tells me will be about the man on the INSIDE - the spirit.
Of course, I did not post this on the board for obvious reasons: it is your business, and your's alone, and not mine at all. But my Lord directed me to share it this night because apparently you want to know what I "know."
See, by the time you wrote this, I had already made my issues public, so that doesn't show any insight.
By the time I wrote the response you're responding to, yes. But that was not when I first told you that my Lord had revealed you to me, not by a LONG shot. Thankfully, others here will remember that.
You said I would have borne false witness against myself, but I guess God didn't see fit to tell you I had been doing that for years.
You misunderstood then, twice, and apparently you still do. Although I explained... twice. Bearing false witness against... means lying on someone. You would have done so against yourself by doing it against your wife. As I explained:
You would... have borne false witness against your own flesh (yourself) and bone (your wife). Because at the time, you were still "one."
Meaning, a man who bears false witness against his wife while they are still joined bears such false witness against himself. And...
"As for bearing false witness... what I wrote was that I felt I needed to speak up because there were those ADVISING you to do so... to lie on your wife... and TO your kids... and I didn't want you to add injury to the insult."
I followed that with:
"It is a bit curious to me that you read my words... but almost always seem to halfway grasp them. What is UP with that? C'mon, man, YOU'RE the one that says we should trust what our eyes see. What's up with YOUR eyes?? LOLOLOLOL!"
You haven't seemed to overcome that habit, yet.
Apparently he also wasn't able to decided not to bother with a simple question, what shirt I was wearing. So, you only had things revealed to you that I had already made public and even at that, you got it wrong.
You "went public" on 8/1/2010, shortly after revealing your truths to your wife. I shared what I did with you some time before that (I will post the exact date should I ever come across it in a thread again).
Posturing? You're the one claiming you get insight from god...
No, from Christ, dear one... and it's curious to me that you can't seem to get that accurate, yet, either...
and have many times revealed what you received about me.
Again, inaccurate. True, I have revealed on 3-4 occasions that I had been revealed something and did so on each occasion BEFORE your public "declaration." But I did not share WHAT until with you until last night.
It's not MY fault you get it wrong every time.
You MUST show me where I got it wrong... even once. You MUST.
I do not understand how it's not fair. No one HAS to read this and for those that do, I think it's important to know how accurate the revealed information you get is.
I absolutely agree. Which is why it's curious to me that you keep leaving very pertinent things out. BTW - You STILL haven't addressed our previous discussion, regarding the void. Although I did mention it. That IS one of the things you keep avoiding. May I ask why?
for you to give me a testable hypothesis you will need to define "faith",
I've done that for you on at least two occasions now. But, to help you get out of your stall, how about: the assurance of the thing hoped for being the proof of things we do not see, while conviction of their reality is perceived as real fact although not revealed to the empirical senses.
tell where to get it,
Done that on MANY occasions, now: from the One who sells it, Christ.
where the voice is heard
Wherever. For some, outside of one. For many, inside. There is no limitation or concrete rule.
what it sounds like
Again, told to you on many occasions. Like a voice. Soft, calm, kind... sort of "watery", even...
so we know for sure is your God, provide some falsifiability, provide some means of independent verification of the voice,
Ask for indentification.
define how intangible faith measurements correlate to the size of a mustard seed either by size or by volume,
Well, the best measurement would probably be the amount of "energy" produced by a mustard seed, which is about 1,947 kJ (469 kcal). Compare that to the amount of faith... and effort... YOU put forth.
does the relative density of the faith need to be the same
Not really, actually. ANY amount of faith... and effort... should suffice.
and provide some means of testing the expected result of knowing something currently unknown or unprovable.
In the words of Nike... "just do it."
That would be a good start. It's not stalling, my dear, when you do not provide what you are asked for. Write that up, send it over and I get to testing.
Here you go. Get thee to it.
Since everything you said you heard about me has been 100% wrong or something already known and thus not "unknowable" (using your criteria), I guess we know which side you fall on.
I heard that you were "not a man 'living' in truth but in deceit," and more specifically that you were "hiding what you were from your wife and children... and thus, you were acting against your own flesh (yourself)." That was VERY true, as you yourself revealed on 8/1/2010. That you deny it now let's us know which side YOU fall on... still.
Given that, can we now be done with this, save your moving forward with your "test"? Because I think I've shared about all I have on the matter. Anything else is just going back to another circle, really. What say you? Oh, and be sure to let us know when you've achieved your results.
PEACE to you, dear NVL!
YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,
SA
