This really is a good thread, I'm glad it came back to life. Definitions seem to be the problem here. Has a christian out there somewhere ever thought about putting out a dictionary with christian meanings, because the meaning of words that I am used to apparently don't fit in that world
Jehovah's Witnesses never argue IDEAS or FACTS. What the religion does is WORD TAMPERING.
You know how a virus breaks in to a cell and takes over control of the DNA? Watchtower propaganda is about taking over the
DEFINITIONS of your important vocabulary words and RE-ENGINEERING the definitions.
The only way I escaped from my decades of indoctrination was this:
1.I had to list (this took years!) each and every important concept word in my vocabulary and WRITE OUT THE DEFINITION.
2. I had to learn to identify when a word was being hijacked away from its core meaning and a weasel-definition inserted in its place.
3.I had to examine every argument for the hidden premise and jacked definitions.
4.I had to refuse to argue with anybody whose premise I had to accept without question.
Perry is a good example. He doesn't argue ideas. He repeats mantras. He doesn't consider replies to his questions. Perry doesn't really read responses! He uses words, terms, doctrines without ever being once willing to examine the premise behind them.
Religion hijacks words like a terrorist takes over an airplane. Once they control the cockpit they can destroy huge ideas by hurling into them.
There is no finesse in the argument of a non-thinking bully.
There is no honesty in reverse-engineering the definitions of words.
Evangelicals and JW's all drink from the same poisoned well of weasel words and intellectual dishonesty in debate.