If theres no God why the earth, the brain the universe? (Atheist and Agnostics)

by cyberjesus 69 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • cyberjesus
    cyberjesus

    thanks for the video. Oh God :-(

    http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=cdk007#p/u/4/tCKqj-2JXZg

    heres another

  • cyberjesus
    cyberjesus

    Farkel: Actually both :-)

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    You can enjoy the journey of discovery as you view internet videos and read books about the origin of life, the universe, and everything. You just might realize that scientific explanations leave less holes than faith-based explanations. You might also realize that men do not have all the answers.

    As far as the superiority of the human brain vastly over the other animals, you might enjoy reading theories on that. I will just say that life's greatest priority is self-preservation then reproduction. Humans and neanderthals (and possibly a few others) were the only animals whose lifestyle and environment caused the better brains to be a huge advantage. Apes that continued to live as apes in isolated places already knew how to do that quite well. These physically weaker new animals had different advantages, but the brain made all the difference in which ones survived longer. I mean, they were taking on large beasts and following the food into colder regions.

    Having said all that, I still say that we don't necessarily know that human brains are way way way more advanced than all animal brains. I would imagine that many elephants and whales and dolphins and dogs and cats and..... have evidence of highly sophisticated intelligence. Many animals have displayed some kind of language. Koko ( see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koko_(gorilla) ) spoke a fairly complicated sign language.

    Or why is that there is only one planet on the Galaxy that has life? why the earth only and not other planets? why only one kind of humans and not other kinds or human-kinds or similar creatures? If we got to this point by evolution, and if we evolve due to necessity why not other sub-humans or less developped species? why such a jump?

    You make so many assumptions. We don't know for a fact that there was never other life in our own solar system, nor if there are not teams of different species throughout our galaxy. Neanderthals were found to be a different species of a "kind of human" life that died out. There is evidence that there was another species of humanoids on some island. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_floresiensis ) It seems that homo sapians just won out and flourished with many clear advantages such as that great brain. The vast majority of life on earth is extinct, so while it would not be totally surprising that other semi-humans survived, it would not be surprising that they did not either.

  • cyberjesus
    cyberjesus

    Gosh the more I learn the more stupid I feel :-) Being in the WTS makes you plain ignorant. Thanks to All for your answers. I ve been loosing sleep these days pondering about it.

  • thetrueone
    thetrueone

    Answer : factual evidence

    Astrophysics

    Geology

    Biology

    Geology

    Theology with all the evidence combined in these studies the only rational and honest conclusion would be there is no god and there never was one.

    Spiritualism is mere figment of human imagination, as it was thousands of years ago and as it is today

  • VoidEater
    VoidEater

    Or why is that there is only one planet on the Galaxy that has life?

    Can we revisit this one once you've visited every planet in the galaxy?

    why only one kind of humans and not other kinds or human-kinds or similar creatures?

    There are many similar creatures to man - you would need to define which characteristics you're interested in. There are mammals, for example, which share much of our emotional world. There are apes that share our general body form. There's a wealth of fossil evidence that there have been many man-creatures, that were less successful than our particular species. Goodness, we share so much with all the creatures around us - a couple which may have highly developed intellectual capacities which only communication prevents us from appreciating in greater detail.

    If we got to this point by evolution, and if we evolve due to necessity why not other sub-humans or less developped species? why such a jump?

    Why does "different" mean "less than"? Why don't we have cats with wings? Why don't lions eat broccoli?

    Check out Nova on PBS:

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/hobbit/

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/apegenius/

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sciencenow/0303/02.html

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/beta/evolution/darwin-never-knew.html

  • cyberjesus
    cyberjesus

    VE: We dont need to visit all the planets on the galaxy to know there is no life in them. I am not talking on the whole universe but only our Galaxy. We would have already discovered there was life in other planets by now, wouldnt we? Thanks for the links

  • villabolo
    villabolo

    Cyberjesus:

    Or why is that there is only one planet on the Galaxy that has life? why the earth only and not other planets?

    We are in no position to tell that only earth has life in all the galaxy. There are hundreds of millions of stars, most of which we cannot see, and those that we can see are just pin points of light. We'll ge've gotten to the point where we can observe, indirectly some planets but until we can detect an atmosphere of nitrogen/oxygen (the type of atmosphere required for earth life and cannot exist without it) we won't know how extensive life is.

    why only one kind of humans and not other kinds or human-kinds or similar creatures?

    Neandertals, Homo Heidelbergensis, Homo Erectus, Homo Ergaster, etc.. Neandertals died out about 35,000 years ago.

    If we got to this point by evolution, and if we evolve due to necessity why not other sub-humans or less developped species? why such a jump?

    Evolution is not due to necessity. That is just a metaphor. Evolution, which basically means change or transformation, occurs when a creature with a gene that makes it better adapted, finds himself in an environment where he has an advantage over others of his own species. The magic phrase is "Survival of the most reproductive in a given environment".

    villabolo

  • VoidEater
    VoidEater

    We would have already discovered there was life in other planets by now, wouldnt we?

    Nope. We're just begining to find the planets themselves.

    Space, as Adams says, is really big.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Cyber,

    I think in order for you to understand why don't know of any life on other planets in our galaxy is to grasp how far away the closest stars are they are several light years away and since light travel 186,000 miles a second these stars that are closest to us are trillions of miles away our milky way galaxy has hundreds of billions of stars in it and is 100,000 light years across.

    So basically to move out of our solar system and visit these other stars we need to travel close to the speed of light which ain't happening any time soon.

    We don't have powerful enough equipment to examine planets for life outside our solar system and haven't really be able to do so very well with those planets in our solar system.

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