The 4 Sexual Deviants

by Farkel 70 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Farkel

    Newer visitors to this board may not be aware of the fact that the first 4 Watchtower leaders were all sexual deviants. I cannot for the life of me figure out how the Creator could have personally selected these 4 men as leaders of his only true religion to be examples for all of the faithful.

    I especially cannot figure out how the Creator would figure these 4 sexual deviants should be used to give sexual marital advice and advice on raising children, since only 1 of the 4 had a kid and he pretty much abandoned that kid for a good part of the kids life. Also, he was the only one who had ever actually HAD sexual relations although they were mostly adulterous ones.

    Charles Taze Russell took "The Vow" before his marriage to Maria. He also publically encouraged his followers to take "The Vow", too. What was "The Vow?" It was to remain celebate all through life. He kept "The Vow." Maria divorced him. Russell actually did screw Maria, but not in the marital sense. He did it by trying to drive her into abject poverty.

    Not exactly the kind of candidate to give marital advice, is he?

    Joseph Franklin Rutherford and his wife Mary were estranged and separated from most of their marriage. There is no record of him even visiting her when he went to Southern California each winter from 1929 until his death in 1942, even though she also lived in Southern California. His only child Malcolm would have nothing to do with his father for most of his life and didn't even bother to attend his father's funeral. Neither did Rutherford's wife.

    Rutherford was no doubt an adulterer, probably with Bonnie Boyd Heath and most certainly with Berta Teel as I've revealed in an earlier thread a few years back. Even Bethel old-timers who knew Rutherford wouldn't deny it when the subject was brought up. They said, "what could you expect from a man who's wife was an invalid?" There is no evidence Mary Rutherford was an invalid, by the way.

    Not exactly the kind of candidate to give marital advice, is he?

    Nathan Homer Knorr was obsessed with the male organ. Ask anyone who served in Bethel during Knorr's reign of terror. Knorr even went so far as to tell the new boys in Bethel how to urinate without touching "it." There were rumors he had homosexual feelings and felt guilty about it. Of that, no one can know. But we do know that even though he did get married while at Bethel, he never consummated his marriage with Audrey. She has privately admitted such. It looks like "The Vow" taken by Russell was also followed by Knorr.

    What a horrible disservice to Maria Russell and Audrey Knorr, both normal women with normal human desires. What an abomination against the whole holy purpose of marriage these men committed, these men who were PERSONALLY chosen by Jehovah God himself to lead the "True and Only True Religion."

    Not exactly the kind of candidate to give marital advice, is he?

    The fourth President, Frederick William Franz was a confirmed bachelor for his 99 years of life. One of his favorite pastimes was going to the sauna with the Bethel boys. That activity could be innocent enough, though. What is NOT innocent was Fred pharisaical and graphically detailed taboos on sexual practices among MARRIED COUPLES in the consensual privacy of their own bedrooms!

    He was the one who gave us the spiritual wisdom from Jehovah that teenage girls were no different than cows in heat! He was the one who said a spouse could not get a scriptural divorce if their mate had homosexual intercourse, and a spouse could not get a scriptural divorce if their mate had intercourse with animals!

    He was the one who basically said oral sex among consenting spouses was an abomination.

    This guy never got laid once in his life and he knew what was best for keeping married couples happy?

    Not exactly the kind of candidate to give marital advice, is he?

    I don't know much about the 5th and last Watchtower President, Uncle Milton Henschel, except he died and hardly anybody knew about it and nobody cared about it.

    At least he didn't try to give any marital advice, so perhaps he was a better guy than the other 4 sexual deviants put together.


  • angel eyes
    angel eyes

    ay!!!!! Bro franz said you couldnt (not you but as in general) divorce if the hubby or wife had sexual intercourse with animals?? and homosexual relations??

    But that doesnt stand now though does it?? I know of someone who's maritial partner was caught with someone of the same sex, and they divorced. Please tell me more.......

  • Farkel

    angel eyes,

    :But that doesnt stand now though does it??

    No. Those insane policies were dropped within a year or two after the outrage and wrecked marriages they caused. I'm sure someone will provide the references. If not, I will.


  • bluecanary

    Excellent post farkel.

  • HintOfLime

    If someone posted references for all of this (or as much as possible), it would be awesome. (I would.. but it's mid-day and I'm busy.)

    - Lime

  • John Doe
    John Doe

    Watchtower 1972 January 1 pp.31-2 Questions from Readers

    Questions from Readers

    • Do homosexual acts on the part of a married person constitute a Scriptural ground for divorce, freeing the innocent mate to remarry?—U.S.A.

    Homosexuality is definitely condemned in the Bible as something that will prevent individuals from gaining God's approval. (1 Cor. 6:9, 10) However, whether an innocent mate would Scripturally be able to remarry after procuring a legal divorce from a mate guilty of homosexual acts must be determined on the basis of what the Bible says respecting divorce and remarriage…

    While both homosexuality and bestiality are disgusting perversions, in the case of neither one is the marriage tie broken. It is broken only by acts that make an individual "one flesh" with a person of the opposite sex other than his or her legal marriage mate.

    Watchtower 1961 December 15 pp. 767-768 Questions from Readers

    • How can girls guard against temptation in this sex-crazy world?

    When a girl reaches the age of puberty or physical maturity, her body has developed in the matter of sex more than in the mind. Young folks like to be together, first in groups, later in twos. If they have not been instructed by their parents in regard to the matter of sex, a boy and a girl are likely to become too familiar and to engage in what is popularly called petting or necking. They may practice this for a time and see no bad results. However, the time will come when there will be great danger in such actions. Why? In answer to this question, we can learn about nature and sex from the bovine family of mammals, both wild and tame.

    Large herds of cattle, both male and female, wander over the plains feeding. Ordinarily the male or bull would not think of approaching the female or cow for sex purposes. If he did approach he would not receive a hearty welcome, but, rather, he might be gored by the cow's horns. There is no petting or sex relations between bull and cow permitted, because the female is not in physical condition to breed. The bull seems to understand this and keeps in his own place. However, when the female of the species is in condition to breed, she makes the matter known. If there is no male in the herd, she will go elsewhere looking for one and she is unsettled until she finds one and then is bred by him. Now she is contented, and the end result is a calf. In this connection it is interesting to note that the male animal has no season at which he is not willing to engage in the breeding act.

    If we humans would take a lesson from these creatures, we would learn something of importance in matters of sex, as to its purpose and the results of its operation.

    As with a cow, when a young girl who has reached her puberty is in physical condition to conceive and become pregnant, her sex emotions are greatly aroused. If she has association with a boy, she is inclined to think that it is the sweetness of the "boy friend" that causes this delightful and new feeling, and so she becomes infatuated with him. If the boy friend should become sexually aroused and lets her know it and then she yields her body to the advances of the amorous boy friend, she is likely to become pregnant as a result of just one sex experience of this kind.

    Some persons foolishly think that they know when it is "safe" to have sex contact with those of the opposite sex and thus avoid becoming pregnant, but this is a serious mistake on their part. Even learned biologists do not know exactly when there is no danger of conception for a woman. This is due to certain irregularities in the case of various females.

    When the ovum, that is, the egg cell from which the baby starts, is at large or is on its way from the woman's ovary through her Fallopian tube to the uterus, there it remains for an uncertain length of time, which varies greatly with different females. Then is the time when conception can take place if the ovum is met by a male life sperm. During that same time the female is sexually aroused and is ready for the sex act that at this time will cause a baby to result. This bearing of children is the sole privilege of the female. In fact, this is one main reason for creating the female of the human species.

    There are cases where a girl became pregnant as a result of one sex interview with a boy. What a price for a girl, a virgin, to pay for a few minutes of satisfied sex emotions! When persons start in this dangerous and sinful course, they find it hard to overcome future temptations. When a young, unmarried girl falls to the temptation, the price she pays is terrible: shame, sorrow, a ruined reputation, endless troubles, with the danger of being disfellowshiped from a congregation if the girl is a dedicated member. It is high time for girls to understand the make-up of their bodies and its functions, especially with regard to sex. Then if a girl understandingly takes care of herself while the ovum is at large and is causing sex disturbance and cravings within her, she will be able to act like a true lady of irreproachable morals at all times. She will avoid the violating of her virginity and the shame and conscience-stricken state due to this; and wisely she will direct her young life so as to end up in the position of a clean, happy wife and mother of legitimate children, journeying to the new world of righteousness, where there will be no sex problems amid a sex-crazy population.

  • willyloman


    Thanks for providing this essay. As much as I thought I knew about the history of JWs I did not until just now put this all together! This says so much about this organization and explains their preoccupation with matters sexual.

    Of course, some apologist will come on and say they were so filled w Holy Spirity they did not need the companionship of mere humans so this proves they were godly men.

    But the facts speak for themselves.

  • iknowall558

    Wow Farkel. Very revealing. How do you know all this ? Where'd you get your info ?

  • Farkel

    :How do you know all this ? Where'd you get your info ?

    Some of it is found in The 4 Watchtower Presidents by Professor Ed Gruss, some of it comes from eyewitnesses at Bethel, including Randy Watters,, some of it comes right out of Watchtower magazines in the 1970's, and some of it comes from my own research.

    Russell's celibacy and treatment of Maria comes from old Watch Tower magazines and the transcripts of his divorce proceedings. The Judge in that trial called Russell everything but Satan the Devil himself due to his horrible treatment of his wife after she left him.

    Here is my scoop on Rutherford's illicit affair with Berta Teel, together with almost 30 pages of follow-up research by the best researchers on this board. The original thread had 35,000 page views and a re-post of that thread had another 17,000 views.

    Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie


  • palmtree67

    Bookmarking for when I haven't had 2 glasses of wine with dinner.

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