Ts im glad to be here too, im learning much from you all, some is enlightening and some i disagree with but hey we all have our own opinions and its nice to share them. But yes this is Jw site....
November 15 2009 Watchtower (Study Edition) - Treasure Your Place in the Congregation...
I thoroughly treasure my place in the JW cong. lol
Apparently they still feel their control is slipping. There have been monthly "obey us or die!" articles for the past several years.
Used to be, there were breaks of a few months between the "obey us or die" articles, and they had at least a touch of subtlety.
This is a JW site?? Certainly not. Where does it even claim to be?
This is how the homepage introduces it:
Jehovah's Witness Discussion Forum
The place to discuss anything relating to Jehovah's Witnesses and the WatchTower Bible and Tract Society... or just make new friends!
It is a discussion forum for anything related to the JWs. The WT definitely forbids that. JWs are not to discuss anything related to the org. WHo runs this site? Are they current witnesses or are they former JWs? DO those who run this site believe that the org is the channel of truth Jehovah os using today? Or are they 'aposates', acccording to the WT? Do those who moderate this site allow those who have daed or are dfed to post here? If so, coming to and using this site would be associating with those who have left the org- the WT is quite clear on associating with df individuals- espeically nonfamily members. Is the content about the org postive or negative? If negative, that would be apostate.
Crazy Blonde's latest thread added this one to the list:
"By word or action, may we never challenge the channel of communication that Jehovah is using today. (Num 16:1-3) On the contrary, we should cherish our privilege to cooperate with the slave class. And should we not strive to be obedient and submission to those taking the lead in our local congrgation? - The Watchtower, November 15, 2009 P 13 Para. 5
I added this comment above to my thread on WT quotes on mind control: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/182080/1/Watchtower-Quotes-on-Mind-control
Here is what Satan's organization says about 'apostate websites':
2/15/04 WT, page 17, para 9
9How can we guard against being deceived by apostates? By heeding the advice from God’s Word, which says: "Keep your eye on those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them." (Romans 16:17) We "avoid them" by steering clear of their reasonings—whether in person, in printed form, or on the Internet. Why do we take such a stand? First, because God’s Word directs us to do so, and we trust that Jehovah always has our best interests at heart.—Isaiah 48:17, 18.
Is conversing online the same as association? Satan's organization says the following:
5/1/04 WT, page 15, para 13 & 14
13 When you think of association, you likely think of being with people. That is correct, but more is involved. When you watch a television program, listen to music, read a novel, go to a movie, or use certain resources on the Internet, you are having association. If that association panders to violent and immoral inclinations or encourages drug abuse, drunkenness, or anything else contrary to Bible principles, you are keeping company with "the senseless one," who acts as if Jehovah did not exist.—Psalm 14:1.
Perhaps you feel that since you attend Christian meetings and are active with the congregation, you are strong enough to handle a violent movie or a music album with good tunes but questionable lyrics. Maybe you feel that there will be no bad results if you take a quick look at a pornographic Web site on the Internet. The apostle Paul tells you that you are wrong! He says: "Bad associations spoil useful habits." (1 Corinthians 15:33) Sadly, many promising young Christians have had their good habits spoiled by unwise associations. Be determined, then, to shun such associations. If you do so, you will follow Paul’s counsel: "Quit being fashioned after this system of things, but be transformed by making your mind over, that you may prove to yourselves the good and acceptable and perfect will of God."—Romans 12:2.
And Satan's organization further sums up websites such as this:
No 99 KM, pages 3-4, para 10-11
10WebSitesof"Jehovah’sWitnesses": Consider, for example, some Internet sites set up by individuals who claim to be Jehovah’s Witnesses. They invite you to visit their sites to read experiences posted by others who claim to be Witnesses. You are encouraged to share your thoughts and views about the Society’s literature. Some give recommendations about presentations that could be used in the field ministry. These sites offer chat rooms for individuals to connect to, allowing live communication with others, similar to talking on the telephone. They often point you to other sites where you can have on-line association with Jehovah’s Witnesses around the world. But can you tell for certain that these contacts have not been planted by apostates?
11Having association via the Internet may not be consistent with the recommendation found at Ephesians 5:15-17. The apostle Paul wrote: "Keep strict watch that how you walk is not as unwise but as wise persons, buying out the opportune time for yourselves, because the days are wicked. On this account cease becoming unreasonable, but go on perceiving what the will of Jehovah is."
12The Christian congregation is the theocratic means through which we are fed spiritually by "the faithful and discreet slave." (Matt. 24:45-47) Within God’s organization, we find direction and protection to keep us separate from the world as well as motivation to keep busy in the work of the Lord. (1 Cor. 15:58) The psalmist indicated that he experienced joy and a feeling of security among God’s congregated people. (Ps. 27:4, 5; 55:14; 122:1) The congregation also provides spiritual support and assistance for those associated with it. Therein, you can find a group of loving, concerned, and caring friends—people you personally know who are ready and willing to help and comfort others in times of distress. (2 Cor. 7:5-7) Congregation members are protected by the Scriptural provision for disfellowshipping those who sin unrepentantly or who promote apostate thinking. (1 Cor. 5:9-13; Titus 3:10, 11) Can we expect to find these same loving arrangements when associating with others via the Internet?
Don't question your religious belief's ever.........unless your not a Jehovah's Witness yet.
That sums it up witness007. Question your beliefs...if wrong, change. But once you come to the 'truth', that searching stops. That is how the GB twists Acts 17:11 as well, where Paul called the Bereans more nobleminded than the others because they searched the Scriptures to make sure what Paul was aying was accurate.
For more than 1982 the WTS has had this article either in the November or December issue of the WT. It is always time near the end of the tax year since some of these are done as investments through a non-profit corporation. In the US there are tax benefits. It is not a donation but an investment.
Can I get a scan? Just of this article. I'm going to flip a few words and show it to Mr. Witness to see his reaction. You know, change out "Jehovah's channel" for United States and stuff like that, show it to him, get his negative reaction to it, then put the Watchtower under his nose with the pertinent section highlighted.