What do you think about this quote from the 2003 District Convention talk "Beware of the Voice of Strangers"?

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  • darkl1ght3r

    As donuthole pointed out, there is scriptural basis for that reasoning. But the problem is... how do they then know what is "new light" and what is a "deceptive angel". The Bible is full of examples of Jehovah (or his angelic messenger) asking his servants to do things that they might not have considered as fitting with the "pattern of truth". For example Abraham being asked to sacrifice his son, and Peter being asked to eat unclean things. Such things are usually counted as indications of strong faith.

    So how does one determine when to follow a "new" direction from God, or to disregard it? The problem is complicated for the JWs because they claim to receive "new light" through angelic direction. And comparing their beliefs over the last century+, it's clear that their "pattern of truth" is one of dissarray, running in circles, and random doctrinal changes.

    They've got a real problem on their hands trying to reconcile their obsession with "new light", and the words Galatians 1:8. Of course they deal with this problem by pretending it doesn't exist.

  • minimus

    Good, Outlaw. Get us some.

  • Trevor Scott
    Trevor Scott

    : We all need more love in the world and the gb give us plenty of that

    Lol! Ae, you're funny! I personally think it was especially loving of the GB in 1974 to recommend selling your home to pioneer in the "short time remaining before the wicked world's end", and then in 1976 (after another Armageddon no-show) to criticise "some" for doing this very sort of thing:

    *** km 5/74 p. 3 How Are You Using Your Life? ***
    Reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service. Certainly this is a fine way to spend the short time remaining before the wicked world’s end.

    *** w76 7/15 p. 440 pars. 11-13 A Solid Basis for Confidence ***
    It may be that some who have been serving God have planned their lives according to a mistaken view of just what was to happen on a certain date or in a certain year. They may have, for this reason, put off or neglected things that they otherwise would have cared for. ... Did Jesus mean that we should adjust our financial and secular affairs so that our resources would just carry us to a certain date that we might think marks the end? ... This is not the kind of thinking that Jesus advised.

  • minimus

    Trev, that was a long time ago. The GB's different now.

  • isaacaustin

    Yeah Trev, they have had new light!!

    And you are overlooking the many loving provisions by the GB, organ transplants, oops thats old light...blood ban, shunning...so much Christlike love

  • isaacaustin

    I think of it this way, Jesus said he wants mercy, not sacrifice. The GB said they want sacrifice, NOT mercy.

  • minimus


  • angel eyes
    angel eyes

    Yup....shows love for all.x

  • minimus

    Yup, makes 10000% sense to me!

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