Last night the CO came to visit. He gave a talk that centered around a Christian's ability to function well within the Organization. There are many Christians who are having problems in their personal lives and this can be traced to one thing. THEIR CHILDREN.
1. It's not your fault if your heathen children don't want to serve Jehovah. If you've even done the minimum by just bringing them to the meetings and showing them the Bible Story book every now and then, that's enough for them to have known something about Jehovah. If they still aren't serving Jehovah and they are near grown are grown, it's because they want to practice what is vile (yes, he used those words, borrowed from scripture).
2. They are a drain on you spiritually. Even if they are your children, if they are unbaptized or disfellowshipped, you need to kick them to the curb if they are able to take care of themselves. Do not keep living with these people. (This explains why one of our elders was inexplicably removed from active duty--his daughter lives with him. As a side note, he is ultra-tight with his daughter so he'd probably never kick her out.)
3. The Society is going to be coming out with even more information on living with people who are on the fringes of the Organization or who are outside of it altogether. He said that JWs are keeping relationships with their family members instead of SHUNNING THEM COMPLETELY as they have been instructed.
This brother, the CO, also claims to be one of the "anointed" so his words supposedly carry additional weight. At the end of the talk he says that he knows that it's rough counsel but it must be done.
My wife was shocked. Not by the fact solely that he's instructing people to kick their kids to the curb if they refuse to cooperate, but that they still support living with a marriage mate who is disfellowshipped or an unbeliever. It seemed a bit double-standard-ish to her, and she is a die-hard, the-Witnesses-can-never-be-wrong worshipper.
Your children are worthless. Get rid of them.
by easyreader1970 42 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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easyreader1970
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sir82
The Society is going to be coming out with even more information on living with people who are on the fringes of the Organization or who are outside of it altogether.
Paranoia strikes deep...into your heart it will creep....
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carla
Why do you think it is paranoia? don't they already treat people that way? haven't we read story after heartbreaking story from the shunned?
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Spectre
"practice what is vile"
Translation=normal
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easyreader1970
haven't we read story after heartbreaking story from the shunned?
Well, the problem is apparently people don't like the hearbreaking stories and they're letting their disfellowshipped relatives--especially children--slide on the shunning rule. The big WBTS doesn't like that so they come back with "these children are destroying your life!"
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1914BS
just go look at what the evil WTS apostates have to say on their own web site - that if you are living common law that you should separate !!! HUH???
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Elsewhere
Just call me Mr. Vile!
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sir82
Just to clarify - my "paranoia" comment was directed at the Society. They are irrationally (well, then again, maybe it is rational after all) afraid that contact with "spiritually weak" family members will shatter the faith of the JWs.
It never ceases to amaze me, how contemptible and stupid the rank & file JWs are in the eyes of the GB. They view them as imbecilic children, with a faith so fragile that the merest glance at one piece of "apostate" literature, one furtive peek at computer porn, one hour's conversation with someone who doesn't worshipfully fawn over the GB, will cause it to irrevocably shatter into a million pieces.
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easyreader1970
It never ceases to amaze me, how contemptible and stupid the rank & file JWs are in the eyes of the GB. They view them as imbecilic children, with a faith so fragile that the merest glance at one piece of "apostate" literature, one furtive peek at computer porn, one hour's conversation with someone who doesn't worshipfully fawn over the GB, will cause it to irrevocably shatter into a million pieces.
That may be largely true, because a JW's faith really isn't based on anything but random interpretations of scripture by some dudes in Brooklyn. Sure, Witnesses can do "personal study", but all the personal study in the world doesn't matter if you aren't allowed to come to your own conclusion. I can just read the Watchtower and accept the Watcthtower answer or I could spend four hours going over the Bible and then, just to make sure I don't think about things in a different way, I still accept the Watchtower answer. So my faith isn't really based on anything.
When someone comes along with some faith or belief (which doesn't have to be religious, per se, it could be something scientific) that is based on something, it's not incredibly hard to sway me. So my only defense is to run away. Which is exactly what the Watchtower tells us to do.
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parakeet
If they still aren't serving Jehovah and they are near grown are grown, it's because they want to practice what is vile (yes, he used those words, borrowed from scripture).
So, a marriage of 35+ years, rearing a happy, healthy child, holding down a job, is ....... vile?
But covering up child abuse, murdering children by proxy via blood transfusion ban, controlling and judging your family's every thought is ....... not vile? even laudable?
He said that JWs are keeping relationships with their family members instead of SHUNNING THEM COMPLETELY as they have been instructed.
Maybe I'll soon be getting a phone call from my elderly JW mom and dad, telling me that the many years of my helping them through their many illnesses, running their errands, cleaning their house, and cooking their meals are vile, and they want nothing more to do with me?
Lots to think about here, unless that CO was doing some independent (i.e. vile) thinking on his own.