The Coming Evangelical Collapse (page 7)

shamus100

atheism is a tool according to mr pike....it's end?.... destroy christianity and then discarded.... ushering in the worship of lucifer......

And I am the second coming of satan.

eeek!

BurnTheShips

Six started this thread about the possible collapse of the evangelical movement.

Funny thing is, ask your typical Evangelical what he thinks will happen to Christians, and he will assert that they will be a persecuted minority in the last days. It looks like the flow of events are heading towards what prophecy states will happen.

BTS

ninja

shamus....yep...it's a laugh....yet the guy who wrote that has a statue in washington d.c........he wrote it....not me

ninja

"We shall unleash the Nihilists and Atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will be from that moment without compass (direction), anxious for an ideal, but with out knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time" (William Guy Carr, Pawns in the Game, p. xv-xvi)

perhaps you should read it again

Big Tex

Funny thing is, ask your typical Evangelical what he thinks will happen to Christians, and he will assert that they will be a persecuted minority in the last days. It looks like the flow of events are heading towards what prophecy states will happen

Somewhere in the archives of this board is a thread about life in the 13th or 14th century. I've tried finding it several times, I could swear AlanF started it, but my point in mentioning it is that the thread offered a comparison of life in that century and life in the 20th (now 21st) century.

The point of that thread was to emphasis civlization (read: life) has always been somewhat difficult, more than a little precarious and capable of imminent collapse for hundreds, if not thousands, of years.

I'm not familiar with evangelical teachings, frankly I don't care. Religion seems to my poor single digit IQ as little more than some business franchise, with their sermons being nothing more than commercials. "Buy my product and you'll be happy/fulfilled etc. Anyone using Brand X is a loser or condemned to hell.

Religion, not just Christian, but many religions, seems to be about boasting of what "we" have while at the same time denigrating what "they" have. It seems to use god as the final bargaining chip to "prove" that "WE" are better than "THEM" because GOD loves US better. And many, if not most, religions can point to persecution, ridicule, etc. and wear it as some sort of badge that proves GOD is on their side. Unless of course they are the ones persecuting in which case GOD is venting his wrath on that wicked minority. Depends on whose ox is getting gored.

At the risk of being accused, once again, of narcissism, I made the choice to jettison the whole mechanism of religion. I wanted off the merry-go-round, and quite franklyi that is one of the few areas in my life about which I feel a deeps sense of peace. I made this decision while making the very conscious, and very seriously conscientious, decision to not sit in judgment of those who find that a religious expression works for them.

As far as I'm concerned if someone gets something from a religion -- more power to them. Just leave me and mine alone.

Peaceful co-existence and all that.

But then that's not what religion, nearly any religion, is all about -- is it?

Chris

beksbks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion-related_violence

Murders

In the U.S., violence directed toward abortion providers has killed at least 7 people, including 3 doctors, 2 clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort. [ 4 ]

March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of the year before. Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Dr. Gunn's murder and was sentenced to life in prison.
June 29, 1994: Dr. John Britton and James Barrett, a clinic escort, were both shot to death outside of another facility in Pensacola. Rev. Paul Jennings Hill was charged with the killings, received a death sentence, and was executed September 3, 2003.
December 30, 1994: Two receptionists, Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, were killed in two clinic attacks in Brookline, Massachusetts. John Salvi, who prior to his arrest was distributing pamphlets from Human Life International, [ 5 ] was arrested and confessed to the killings. He committed suicide in prison and guards found his body under his bed with a plastic garbage bag tied around his head. Salvi had also confessed to a non-lethal attack in Norfolk, Virginia days before the Brookline killings.
January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, was killed when his workplace was bombed. Eric Robert Rudolph, who was also responsible for the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, was charged with the crime and received two life sentences as a result.
October 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian was shot to death at his home in Amherst, New York. His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Dr. Slepian's murder after finally being apprehended in France in 2001.

A fourth doctor, George Patterson, was shot and killed in Mobile, Alabama on August 21, 1993, but it is uncertain whether his death was the direct result of his profession or rather a robbery. [ 6 ]

shamus100

And Chris,

That's my big problem with anyone who is religious. The second they think they are better than someone else, it shows that they are the lowest common denominator. They convenientley forget that they're religion caused much worse suffering, whatever sect of christendom you belong to.

You are no better than anyone else.

Chris, how is ditching religion part of self-love? Did you get a pectoral implant when you made your decision? I know I sure did.

Big Tex

Shamus I thought self-love involved the right hand, rather than a pectoral muscle.

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