crumpet - - I think even if you had said nothing they may have decided to throw in the towel as it were anyway. My family began the shunning before i was disfellowshipped as did numerous friends and I'd only stopped attending meetings for a short while and none of them had witnessed my trangressions, so they try you and execute the sentence before you even get to a judicial in some cases.
Thats how it seems to beand I do feel that I've been tried, found guilty without having committed a crime and then been executed.
Hortensia - As far as I know grandparents don't have any rights by law any way. There is a chance that the law will grant access if a bond has been formed with the child, but in my case she is only one year old so I wouldn't win on those grounds. I am very sorry that your poor sister is being treated so cruelly after such a tragic loss of her son.
Avengers and PEC - Thank you