Christians do not read....Mark Twain "Mysterious Stranger" (page 3)

BurnTheShips

So many of you chose Christianity, it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, but I won't knock you if it helps you through this crappy existence. For me, its a fairy tale and it only makes my lot worse... just like Twain, I feel religions offer just more insanity stacked on the insane world I already live in. But if believeing in that helps you, then I'm glad you've found a crutch to help you through your day... But this is what I think all religions are... they are fantacies that make this crap world and all the "slings and arrows" we endure not seem so damn bad.. it's like, this is tempoary so don't sweat it. Only time I really fault religions are when they take that fantacy and try and make us all believe or when they try and effect public policy with it.

O.K.

So you say you are happy Christians have a crutch to help them with their difficulties, but then you try to knock it out from under them by going on a tirade against the fantasy.

Makes a lot of sense.

If I were you, I'd waste more of my energy being pissed at the IRS, rather than God. Or better yet, do what you can and accept the rest without anger.

So, lets give a rundown of my life so far... no family, no loved ones, a life totally devoid of love sans my friends who I'm so thankful for. That's the biggest disappointment the fact that my life is void of love and being broke isn't going to help me with that situation... that means I'm bankrupt mentally, and physically, I'm in a big black hole and there seems no way out... But that isn't what gets me.... realtively speaking, I'm not doing as bad as many I know on this forum, and many I know in my personal life... what gives? Are we supposed to be here just to suffer like hell and then we just die?

I think there is a reason for everything, even suffering. And I don't think we just die. And I still think you are projecting anger from a lack of love from your family and friends on the fantasy God you say you don't believe in. And like the odd sibling out, you are lashing at those that still have a good relationship with sky-daddy and sky-mommy.

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journey-on

I didn't ask for the reality of being born into the JW bullshit faith... I didn't ask that my family be taken from me... I didn't ask for my lady to cheat on me

Some people believe that you DID ask for it....or, rather, your SOUL needs certain lessons in life in order to evolve, and when it returns

to the earth plane, it comes to experience those things that it needs this time around to continue on its evolution. Just sayin'.

BurnTheShips

Some people believe that you DID ask for it....or, rather, your SOUL needs certain lessons in life in order to evolve, and when it returns
to the earth plane, it comes to experience those things that it needs this time around to continue on its evolution. Just sayin'.

Sounds like an excerpt from Walsh's Conversations With God.

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dawg

Yea Ships, that's what we all need, we need for you to tell us what you'd do... So, tell us, what did you do when the IRS came breathing down your neck? Do you have a solution? And as for me blaming God, read the thread man, I'm saying I don't think there is a God. I'm saying I'm thankful I've not had to endure as much as many people I've known have... as for everything happening for a reason, why don't you get what all of us are saying? We're saying the reason is chance, simple chance.

So what reasons do yo have for that brother who's wife had an illness that kept her bedridden? What's the reason Ships? Or the suffering we see all around us all day everyday ad infinium? This thread is partailly about the short story by Mark Twain called "Mysterious Stranger"... have you ever even read it?

BurnTheShips

So what reasons do yo have for that brother who's wife had an illness that kept her bedridden? What's the reason Ships? Or the suffering we see all around us all day everyday ad infinium? This thread is partailly about the short story by Mark Twain called "Mysterious Stranger"... have you ever even read it?

No I haven't read it. As for consoling the suffering, other than fixing what can be humanly fixed, spiritual comforts are all I can offer. What would you offer?

Yea Ships, that's what we all need, we need for you to tell us what you'd do... So, tell us, what did you do when the IRS came breathing down your neck? Do you have a solution?

As for my comments above, I'm just riffing on your issues. As for the IRS, how'd you get into that pickle? There is always a solution, it's just that sometimes the solution is worse than the problem.

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daniel-p

Just exploring a little theory of mine.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>REPLY>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Is that the theory that people will, in fact, respond negatively to tactless questions?

dawg

Ok Ships, I go to the H&R Block to have my taxes done in 2004...I give them all pertinant information, they are supposed to know the tax codes. They take a deduction that isn't allowed, its for about $5,000 that's what the IRS says I owe...I don't know the tax codes that's why I use a pro when preparing my taxes, I also bought insurance in case of a mistake. H&R Block isn't helping me. It will be solved, and it wouldn't even be that big a deal except the fact that this year, the Yellow pages placed my add in the wrong place, so a company i started in 2004, which was grossing about 120K a year, is now defunct.. I can't pay all my bills with the incoming calls. I've always done well in business and this is really killing me, but as I''ve said, my life's better than most...

As for human suffering, that's what this thread is about, I've already stated that I think most suffering is pure chance. The man I mentioned, his wife got sick becasue all living creatures get ill and die sooner or later... death and suffering have always existed, and they always will... that's the point of mysterious stranger and this thread. Thanks anyway... take care.

TopHat

Hello dawg, I am kind of leaning toward the way you think about God. Now I have to check out Twain's book from the local Library.. BTW I see you will be here on JWD for one year come tomorrow. Congratulation's

BFD

I know exactly where you're coming from, dawg. Sometimes it seems like we're just some cosmic experiment sitting dusty on a shelf somewhere, long forgotten. My only problem is that when I give up my faith I feel like something has been taken away from me. So far, I always get it back. I hang onto Jesus by a thread. Then there are times when I admit that he might be just another face in the crowd.

Like you, life for me has been better. It's all cycles, I guess. I hope things start to look up for you dawg. I try to make the most of every day I get at this point and block out the noise. Some days it's all noise. What can you do?

BFD

BurnTheShips

Ok Ships, I go to the H&R Block to have my taxes done in 2004...I give them all pertinant information, they are supposed to know the tax codes. They take a deduction that isn't allowed, its for about $5,000 that's what the IRS says I owe...I don't know the tax codes that's why I use a pro when preparing my taxes, I also bought insurance in case of a mistake. H&R Block isn't helping me. It will be solved, and it wouldn't even be that big a deal except the fact that this year, the Yellow pages placed my add in the wrong place, so a company i started in 2004, which was grossing about 120K a year, is now defunct.. I can't pay all my bills with the incoming calls. I've always done well in business and this is really killing me, but as I''ve said, my life's better than most...

Eesh Dawg, sounds like a nasty place to be. All I can say is, you seem to have it pretty well together. You had the testicular fortitude to smell a rat in JWdom, and a solid enough pair to run your own business. You have the power Dawg. And you will. I know you are venting here, but I can tell you still have lots of fight in you. The anger in the thread starter - that's fight in there. You'll make out and in 5 years when you have pulled yourself out and have a lovely lady on your arm and the situation well inhand you'll look back and wonder why you were drowning in a glass of water. Whether you believe in God or not something has given you the power. Get up get out and getcha some.

Best of luck. Burn

Christians do not read....Mark Twain "Mysterious Stranger"

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