Is an Organization required?

by Robert7 14 Replies latest jw friends

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  Cold Creek Swimmer

  Big question your really need to ask them next time you talk to them. "How can an organization be guided by Holy Spirit and no be Inspired?" The whole point in saying that anything is guided by holy spirit is to prove that the words said are inspired. You cannot have it both ways and claim that imperfect men run the Org. As soon as they say that it is run by imperfect men, than they have just confirmed that they are not guided by holy spirit. Holy Spirit "guidance" cannot be wrong because it is, according to the Watchtower, "God's active force". How can something from a source, from which it is impossible to be wrong, make a mistake? The very comment that they made is a perfect example of Cognitive Dissonance. They hold the belief that the Org is Guided by Spirit while also believing that the Org can make mistakes because it is run by imperfect men.

  CCS
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  jwfacts

  The Bible says that there always has been an organization providing spiritual food to the people.

  Where? the word organization never even appears in the Bible. http://www.jwfacts.com/index_files/organization.htm

  - Jesus said the "Faithful and discreet slave, providing proper food at the proper time" comment.

  A vague parable, what is there to indicate this would be a 20th century corporation. http://www.jwfacts.com/index_files/slave.htm

  - Today there is no other organization providing the Bible Truths like the FDS is.

  They must be joking, all religions think they teach the best Bible Truths. The WTS got their basis from the Adventist movement, which continues to have a doctrinal base as good the WTS

  - The FDS and the Watchtower is made up of imperfect men, and although directed by Holy Spirit, it is not inspired by it, and can have errors or inaccuracies.

  This is a contradiction of terms. Being inspired is being directed by Holy Spirit. Either they are directed correctly, or they are not directed. http://www.jwfacts.com/index_files/holyspirit.htm

  - Basically ignore the little issues because and focus on the big truths.

  This is what holds most people in the religions of their birth. Not truth, but just accepting whatever their religion tells them.

  - "Where else can I turn?"

  Any religion that does not use cult mind control practices to demand unquestioning allegiance. Or maybe no manmade religion at all. http://www.jwfacts.com/index_files/mindcontrol.htm http://www.jwfacts.com/index_files/where.htm
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  proplog2

  Orangutans are organized!

  The natural state of humans is to be organized.

  Organization allows individuals to accomplish more through division of labor through specialization.

  But there are all types of orgnaizations. Democratic, autocratic, authoritarian, abusive, facilitating...
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  Black Man

  I'm upping this, because I'm embroiled in this same exact convo with family members.........
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  jaguarbass

  To help you out, you need to knock down the house of cards that you are building your faulty reasoning on. The bible is very unreliable and is not the word of God.

  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bible+contradictions&btnG=Google+Search

  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=evidence+the+bible+is+not+the+word+of+god&btnG=Search