I disagree that debating is necessary for growth. Debating to me is simply trying to prove a point just for the sake of proving that point.
If, by debate, you infer discussion, sharing of knowledge, and learning....then I agree with you.
Debate can be painful but it can bring rich rewards. Debating is all that you mentioned. It is proving a point, discussion, sharing of knowledge and learning. (Actually I prefer the idea of evidencing a point versus proving a point. Proof is an elusive thing. Most often we conclude with the best information available, which is usually short of the absoluteness of proof.)
To be perfectly honest, I never asked for your beliefs because I noticed that others had asked direct questions of you, and you did not seem to care to divulge your beliefs or feelings.
Like everyone else, I also have beliefs and feelings that are dear to me.
My impression was that you were more interested in stirring up a rousing battle. If this is in error, I apologize.
I have no interest in stirring up a rousing battle. On the other hand, if I see distortion of truth I will jump in there with the best of them and present my case. Most often taking umbrage are the distortionists. I am not too concerned about winning or losing. I am more concerned that accuracy prevails.
I appreciate your candor and accept your apology for what it is, just two persons getting to know one another better. Thanks.
[W]hy the snide comment about recognizing an argument when I see one?
LOL. I have a bad habit of trying to be thorough. That "snide" remark was not intended as such. It was intended to just cover all the possibilities.
Sharing generally is a good thing. Taking something you feel is what a person needs and force-feeding it to them generally results in choking.
Please feel free to share. Please do not badger.
That is a concept with which I struggle. It is extremely difficult for me to become choked or feel badgered on a forum such as this. True, there is a measure of interactiveness, but in most respects forums such as this are like reading something in a magazine. I read all kinds of idiotic nonsense everyday; it is unavoidable. Yet I do not feel force fed because I can just ignore it. If I am pressed on some issue of importance to me then I respond with my convictions and bases for them. If my bases are demonstrated as inaccurate and I learn something new then I am happy that it happened to me.
Please do not let this disagree with you, but on forums such as this I find that persons who feel force-fed or badgered are those who find that their views are based upon emotion rather than reality. No one here is required to respond or evidence anything. I think the frustration comes when evidencing some claim becomes less and less likely. You have opined that I should share my beliefs and that is one of them.
I do not want to continue discussing issue with anyone if that makes them feel uncomfortable. In their case I would rather just learn about them. Later if an occasion arises for discussion of issues between us then we will see about that at that time. Perhaps by then a better understanding or personalities will aid toward avoiding needless frustration and anger.