by Open mind 31 Replies latest members private
Monophonic (and others in essense) said:
respecting each other's spiritual views.
I think that's key. Only time will tell how much allowance my wife will make for my divergent views.
Looking at it a little closer, I think it's a matter of respecting each other's RIGHT to have our own spiritual view. As far as respecting the JW spiritual view, there's not a whole lot left I respect.
Open Mind
[I think it's a matter of respecting each other's RIGHT to have our own spiritual view. As far as respecting the JW spiritual view, there's not a whole lot left I respect. ]
way better way to put that, it's exactly how i feel.
Boy, your thread must have been sent by Jehovah!
I have been fading, as many of you know. And let me tell you, Wacky Watchtower World is TOTALLY different to the REAL world where real people interact, differ, agree, communicate, and respect one another's rights to their differing perpectives.
I am having great difficulty with the wife on account of this religion. I guess it doesn't help that I was an elder, much used in the area, etc..... JW women get a great deal of their identity from their hubbies since there is nothing they can do in the Borg. Anyway, I have been fading...well frankly, the last two months I have fallen off the planet as far as JW's go. I have not reported time in two months. The conversations have not gone well with the wife.
This religion puts the WTS FIRST and everyone else second and they frame it as loyalty to God himself. This is not your normal world here. This is Alice in Wonderland where up is down and white is black. One cannot deal with a loyal dub relying on REASON and LOGIC because these two things do not exist in their world. I beleive a shared outlook is very important to any LTR relationship. What I am painfully finding out is that my wife and her friends are seeing my lack of WTS interest as a BETRAYAL rather than a difference in outlook.
I, frankly, do not know where my relationship is going to end up. I have kept my part of the deal. My marriage vows never said anything about being a JW forever. But to a JW, I think that is the implication.
I try to hide my loathing at the manipulation and lies of this religion, but it is very difficult. I admire those who can just get by with a minimum of "activity" in order to placate others. It's just not in me.
Shared spiritual perspective is important. What the WTS asks for is surrender of reason and the crushing of one's spirit. It is evil.
What could possibly be more important?
zack . . . you said, "Shared spiritual perspective is important. What the WTS asks for is surrenderofreasonandthecrushingofone'sspirit. It is evil."
Exactly.
As long as both people respect the other's beliefs, it is not as important as having common goals, and being friends. JMHO.
As long as both people respect the other's beliefs, it is not as important as having common goals, and being friends. JMHO.
Are not said beliefs the core of the soul? If the two souls are not in harmony, how can the relationship have real substance. It would just amount to killing time together. JMHO.
I am so lucky that I was never worthy of a relationship with a JW, (Thank you Jesus.) I went out into the world and found a wonderful woman. At the time we both believed in God. How can you tell someone that has never been a JW about JWs? Early in our relationship she talked me into going to her church, (being raised a JW and didn't know anything about other religions.) it felt like committing an unforgivable sin, until I listened to the preacher, first he started bashing the Catholic church (it sounded familiar), then he went on to tell us that they were only religion with the truth; (the WT should sue him for using their TM "truth") anyhow, before the sermon was over, I realized that the JWs didn't have the one and only truth and I no longer felt that I had committed an unforgivable sin. (Thank you Jesus.) Many years later, she told me, how as a child, she had been forced to go to a different church, at every foster home she was in. She was much more open to understanding the JWs than I could have ever hoped. IMHO, The more exposure one gets to different religions the more likely the will become a atheist. We are now both atheists and spiritually as one, we have no need for any God or religion, (Thank you Jesus.) Atheism is not a religion, (Thank you Jesus.) Philip
Wow this thread is really getting deep.
I was at first to the question going to say having the same spiritual outlook shouldn't matter in a marriage unless of course you have children, then it becomes a battle of how to bring up the children. That aside these comments really make me stand back and rethink:
Shared spiritual perspective is important. What the WTS asks for is surrender of reason and the crushing of one's spirit. It is evil.
Are not said beliefs the core of the soul? If the two souls are not in harmony, how can the relationship have real substance. It would just amount to killing time together. JMHO.As long as both people respect the other's beliefs, it is not as important as having common goals, and being friends. JMHO.
Monophonic (and others in essense) said:
respecting each other's spiritual views.I think that's key. Only time will tell how much allowance my wife will make for my divergent views.
Looking at it a little closer, I think it's a matter of respecting each other's RIGHT to have our own spiritual view. As far as respecting the JW spiritual view, there's not a whole lot left I respect.
Open Mind
But at last my real concern is this statement:
Looking_glass: Your comments made plenty of sense and would seem reasonable to many sane, normal people walking down the street. Now, step into Wacky Watchtower World and it's not nearly as healthy.
Open Mind
It's totally different when dealing with a cult, this is not a religion these are mindless drones being led by the WTS and we all know MOTHER knows best, sigh.
Bottom line is it comes down to you and your wife and how much you love each other and if you can put aside your differences for the sake of your marriage, but then there is that JWish three thread cord, Jehober is always in the middle (read WTS policies). I'm not sure it's doable or even desirable. I wish you luck!
You can respect a persons beliefs but if i had to pick i would rather share my life with someone who shared my beliefs. This is a no brainer.
