Zone talk by David Splane - Four figurative giants - Education etc

by truthseeker 61 Replies latest jw friends

  • greendawn
    greendawn

    The evil bastards will never give up their propaganda about higher education, true some people with degrees don't find work but most do and they enjoy on average much better wages than those without degrees. In addition higher education makes people more civilised and cultured.

    As for the world hating them that is either paranoid or in some cases well deserved given their blood policy and shunning rules and their degrading and ungrateful view of all non JWs.

  • neverendingjourney
    neverendingjourney

    The Peter Principle is alive and well at that WTBTS. Each new GB member seems to be crazier and crazier. This is probalby a good thing. Maybe all of the JWs that have been having doubts or no longer feel like they're in a very Christian religion will be able to see the madness for what it is more easily and walk away.

  • Gopher
    Gopher

    That last point -- "OURSELVES as giants" -- is a self-fulfilling prophecy of the Watchtower.

    If people have thoughts or feelings of unworthiness, exactly who planted such feelings there? How often are the rank and file told at meetings and assemblies that they should be doing more? How often is negative reinforcement used, as opposed to actually praise and encouragement of any efforts?

    The WT Society created that last giant of self-flagellation by the rank and file. And now they're counselling them about that feeling they put into their followers?

  • 38 Years
    38 Years

    Horrible stuff. Telling people they are better off without an education. Hey, not everyone gets assigned to Bethel to get those wonderful job skills. Forcing your kids to get baptized, if they aren't by the time they are 14-16 years old, you're a failure as a parent. Everybody's against the organization, don't trust anyone. Oh, but make sure to think positive, and if you aren't, it's you own fault that you are depressed. Be happy, Armegeddon's coming very very soon to make everything all better!

    Yep, they're taking good care of the flock.

  • zack
    zack

    Splane has a penchant for verbal flatulence. He is known to some as Bro. ex-splane, since he seems to know so much about everything (in his own mind)

    This is one of the "glorious" ones Jesus has entrusted THE ENTIRE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE to.

    Did I mention these guys are evil?

  • moshe
    moshe

    They know how to push around the lower classes, but the college educated ones who learn critical thinking skills don't fall for the WT crap. Kids in college ends up splitting up the rest of the JW family structure, too.

  • hamsterbait
    hamsterbait

    Why bother studying the Litterature - in just a few years it will be outdated toilet paper.

    HB

  • VM44
    VM44

    David Splane is full of useless advice.

    I now see what purpose the Watchtower provides, it provides a living for men like Splane who couldn't function in the real world without the Organization!

    --VM44

  • dozy
    dozy

    Splane has been taking this talk on tour for the last couple of years - I heard it (on tape) in 2005 , when he gave it in the USA. See an earlier review on JWD:

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/106787/1.ashx/%22Extremely+helpful+in+a+spiritual+way%22

    What I find interesting is that it has morphed from 3 "giants" to 4 with "negative publicity" as the fourth giant. Clearly the WTS are concerned at press reports & tv programs.

    He does seem to be more specific than I can recall on children being UBPs & baptised. A little bit silly to give specific ages - for someone who has never had kids , he seems to be extremely knowledgeable about bringing them up "in the truth".

  • tijkmo
    tijkmo

    Well you can go pioneering when you have finished your university. That way you will be able tosuppport your family when you need to stop pioneering and you have to find a job.

    *** Multiple Articles ***If, in the country where they live, minimal or even high school education will only allow them to find jobs providing insufficient income to support themselves as pioneers, then supplementary education or training might be considered. This would be with the specific goal of full-time service.

    this would appear to be the very point that the wts made in the 92 wt

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