Is it wrong? (page 2)

ex-nj-jw

I know a lot of people are suspicious of physicians, but I've been a nurse for 22 years and all the physicians I've worked for really do research on new medication, pro's and con's and don't just give out medication for the hell of it. Doctors don't benefit from free samples in any way except to provide medication to indigent patients, patient's with no insurance, or to give a patient the chance to try a medication before filling a prescription to see if they "like" this particular medication.

Of course it's up to the individual patient to decide if a certain treatment is for them or not, but you should be just as suspicious of on-line information as you are of your physician. If you don't trust your physician then you probably need to find another.

Most medications can be used in multiple conditions. I hope this information about antibiotics killing cancer is true, it will definately save millions of people. You'd think that something so simple as an antibiotic would have been found effective for a cancer treatment long ago, considering how long research has been going on.

All we can do it HOPE, when that's gone what do you really have??

nj

Frannie Banannie

Frannie: We strongly discourage posting private PMs on the board

So sorry, Lee. I had thought that just the content without the poster's name would be OK. Won't do it again!

Thank you both (((sademo)))), (((((restrangled)))))

I know a lot of people are suspicious of physicians, but I've been a nurse for 22 years and all the physicians I've worked for really do research on new medication, pro's and con's and don't just give out medication for the hell of it. Doctors don't benefit from free samples in any way except to provide medication to indigent patients, patient's with no insurance, or to give a patient the chance to try a medication before filling a prescription to see if they "like" this particular medication.
Of course it's up to the individual patient to decide if a certain treatment is for them or not, but you should be just as suspicious of on-line information as you are of your physician. If you don't trust your physician then you probably need to find another.
Most medications can be used in multiple conditions. I hope this information about antibiotics killing cancer is true, it will definately save millions of people. You'd think that something so simple as an antibiotic would have been found effective for a cancer treatment long ago, considering how long research has been going on.
All we can do it HOPE, when that's gone what do you really have??

Ex-nj-jw, you are so blessed to have worked with conscientious physicians. Not all of them are.

If that info had not been announced by the media, I would have been suspicious, but since it's something that is easily acquired and tried with no harm to an individual, I don't see any harm in it.

Yes, I agree, ex-nj-jw. I wonder what prevents the medical profession from jumping on the "cure-for-cancer" bandwagon. Could it be the almighty $$$$$$$ might be affected?

Yes on HOPE, too, since hope give a person the incentive to strive for wellness. ((((((ex-nj-jw)))))

Frannie

jaguarbass

Hello Franniebannanie: I dont think it's wrong to look for light in darkness. I wish some of it would work. It seem's like all my 54 years they have a new cancer cure every month. But people still keep dying.

If there is a God it appears he doesnt care if people die from cancer, in fact thats his plan sickness and disease.

Frannie Banannie

I dont think it's wrong to look for light in darkness. I wish some of it would work. It seem's like all my 54 years they have a new cancer cure every month. But people still keep dying.

I know what you mean, JB. I think that most cancer patients just haven't accessed the info available on the internet to any great extent.

Numinous

Just a suggestion, Lorraine Day has a common sense approach that would be my first choice in treatment as it has been proven to work consistantly. I believe there is always hope, but then, death isn't as bad as it's cracked up to be.

Frannie Banannie

Thanks for that tip on Lorraine Day, Numinous. Do you have a link? Or should I just google her name?

Btw....welcome to the JWD forum, chere! Glad you're here!

Frannie

HAL9000

Frannie,

Some years ago a family member became sick. Their eyesight went blurry, they suffered strange pains and a chronic condition deteriorated. After a long track past many specialists who were only interested in looking at a pair of eyes, a stomach or lungs, someone suggested that they contact a "holostic" doctor - a general practitioner - who was interested in the person as a whole person, rather than a particular organ. The result? He diagnosed and proved exposure to solvents & heavy metals and treated such with a reasonable degree of success. Something that none of the specialists could do. Mind you, the family member was soundly criticised by all & sundry for seeing a "witch-doctor".

What I am getting to is the person who gave the advice to see a so-called "alternative" medico probably saved my relative's life. Advice is good, but it is up to the individual to decide what is right for them and if they want to persue it.

Take care, and keep caring,

h9k

Frannie Banannie

Exactly, Hal9000. I sure do know what you mean about tracking past docs that are only interested in dealing with the symptoms or body parts, instead of the illness or the cause or especially the person as a whole.

Yes, I agree about offering the info. The person involved can decide for themselves whether to use the info or not. It would not be ethical to promote something as the only way to go.

Thanks, hk9!

Frannie

funkyderek

It won't surprise many to learn that I was the "angry poster" in question. My response was a PM because I didn't think it appropriate to turn that thread into a discussion about the merits of real medical treatment compared to the sort of nonsense Frannie was advocating. Neither did I think it appropriate for her to spam the thread with such drivel, which is why I felt the need to respond.

My biggest objection is to the following claim:

Every time I see a thread on someone's cancer diagnosis, I refer them to the links where they can find the info on a recently discovered cancer CURE. All is not lost. There IS hope. Check this info (below) out.

The claim that a cure for cancer has been found is a big one, and likely to cause excitement and hope - at least until it is discovered that it's a lie, and no cure has yet been found. To do that to someone who has just got news that the person they love the most is suffering from cancer is reprehensible in the extreme. To dangle false hope in front of someone in such a difficult situation is sickeningly irresponsible. It's not just providing information.

Further, Frannie copied and pasted an entire article (poor netiquette in itself) that claimed there was a cure for HIV/AIDS. Apparently not satisfied with giving false hope to cancer sufferers, she had to do it for those with AIDS as well. Now I understand that she probably meant well, and it's probably not entirely her fault that she doesn't understand what she's reading and is unable to tell the difference between science and quackery, and that there are apparently mitigating circumstances absolving her of full responsibility for her actions, but it's still unacceptable unhelpful behaviour, and that's why I called her on it.

The claim that there are constant advances being made in treating all sorts of agressive cancer is true and helpful. The claim that cancer can be cured easily is not.

Crumpet

LOL at Funky Derek - go easy on some of our more seniors honey! ]

But you are right to point out that its easy to get over excited by what is touted as a cure when in fact it may simply be a promise of more research or an unproven form of treatment.

The actual theme of not giving up hope though is an important part of getting well and don't bawl me out about that because I shall just squish and run off into the sunset with your girlfriend.

Love crumpy xxx (thats an instruction not an offering - LOL!)

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