I finally called the JW who placed a book with me last fall and wanted to start a study with me. I didn't expect to talk two hours, but he was willing. I still don't know why he didn't hang up on me. This guy was a 45 yr JW lifer and he even admitted that some had , left in 1975 to buy homes , have families and live what we call a normal life- he looked down on them. I called the JW's who went to meetings, robots who just parroted WT provided answers, JW parasites -who took advantage of charitable works of other Christians , while giving nothing back to the community, JW vampires- who used the blood of other non-JW's for their blood fractions, while refusing to donate blood to help others and fools who believed the false prophecies of the WT Society and then refused to leave the KH when they were proven to be false. He tried to tell me that JW's were the fastest growing religion in the US and were building 100 new KH's a year- I reminded him that would be less than the normal population growth in the US- only 15,000 people, or so- much less growth than you see with all the new churches going up- he changed the subject again!. Really, nothing seemed to rattle this 65 year old guy-Beth Sarim, 1914, 1925, 1975, 607bce-- none of it mattered to him, the truth is the truth and he would wait on Jehovah to fix anything that needed fixing. The WT overlords did a good job conditioning him to accept all this failure and not be an outwardly depressed and broken man. In the end, I had the satisfaction of burning up 120 minutes on his cell phone.(no home telephone- probably trying to save money).
My two hour phone call with an elder
by moshe 11 Replies latest jw friends
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SirNose586
He tried to tell me that JW's were the fastest growing religion in the US
Too funny. Yeah, that guy is way too deep in the Matrix to get yanked now.
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Pubsinger
In the US you have quite a few "Mega Churches" like Joel Osteen's(?) church with 20000 members, and several others which you're probably more aware of than me.
Don't they have a much bigger "growth" rate than the Witnesses?
Or don't they count those type of churches as a "religion"?
"Fastest growing" is a nonsense any way. If I start my own "religion" today, and recruit 5 new followers in a week I'm growing at 600% per week
But if I have 60 000 000 followers and recruit 6 000 000 in a year I'm "only" growing at a measly 10% per year!
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jaguarbass
The WT overlords did a good job conditioning him to accept all this failure and not be an outwardly depressed and broken man.
It seems he chooses the above vs. having to think and make sense of it all. If hes in his 60's, he probablly shouldnt look behind the curtain of Oz.
They say there is no fool like an old fool.
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sspo
He did not care of what the outcome was, he is probably aux. pioneering and got two easy hours in the ministry.
He will call again, you are easy service, 2 more hours and a return visit.
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OnTheWayOut
JW vampires- who used the blood of other non-JW's for their blood fractions
ROFLOL. Okay, I will finish reading the first post now, and the replies.
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OnTheWayOut
He will call again, you are easy service, 2 more hours and a return visit.
True, true. But keep talking to him if it makes you feel good. You might get thru to him.
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moshe
I saw him working an apt complex last year, parked down the street and raised the hood of my car and did pretend auto maintenance until he showed up. I told him I was visiting a relative, so he has no clue where I live and I called him using skypeout voip , so no caller ID from me. I have his address now from his old home telephone number, so I can make a return visit on him! JW's just hate it when difficult people like me show up at their doorstop. He didn't believe the Beth Sarim story, so I am taking a copy of the deed over to him- and my copy of "The Way to Paradise"-1924- he didn't believe they ever predicted that undertakers would be out of business by 1926, either.
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johnny cip
Moshe : of course you lying. they wt has been hiding this stuf4f from him all his life. it's amazing how you can tell them all this stuff and they still wouldn't even look , even the parts they can find at the local hall library. 2 hours and he stood on the phone like a DOPE. I'VE SEEN IT 1000'S OF TIMES. BUT ONCE you plant a seed it never leaves. i had 2 sisters tonight, they were so happy i stopped and asked for mag's even tho they weren't in field service. but i knew they were counting time. with rolled up mag's in their hands. well they asked me if i went to the hall? and i told them yes . till ther lie about 1975 happened they lasted about 3 more minutes. talking about the other sheep. but they stumbled on my knowledge . then one said she would die a jw. i told her that's the only true thing you told me in 5 minutes. yes you will die. and she was young. it was too easy. john
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JWdaughter
Moshe, sweetie, you really shouldn't hold back so much with these people!