Cary Verse - known JW Pedophile Arrested Again

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  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    I love that photo - "Cary Verse, Watchtower Poster Boy"

  • DannyHaszard
    DannyHaszard

    JW Deviant Verse in the news again imageimageProfessionals Disagree On Verse Treatment
    abc7news.com, CA - 1 hour ago
    ... resolved the conflict between his own homosexual behavior and his strong adherence to the Jehovah's Witnesses faith, which disapproves of homosexuality. ...

    UPDATE: PROFESSIONALS DIFFER ON VERSE TREATMENT
    CBS 5, CA - 2 hours ago
    ... resolved the conflict between his own homosexual behavior and his strong adherence to the Jehovah's Witnesses faith, which disapproves of homosexuality. ...

    UPDATE: PROFESSIONALS DIFFER ON VERSE TREATMENT

    01/05/07 7:00 PST MARTINEZ (BCN) Mental health professionals differed today over whether four-time convicted sex offender Cary Verse should be re-hospitalized for extensive in-patient treatment following a series of lapses. At a five-hour hearing in Contra Costa County Superior Court, Deputy District Attorney Brian Haynes presented two professionals who said they think Verse should be sent back to Atascadero State Hospital, where he previously was treated for six years before being released in 2004. But Verse's attorney, Deputy Public Defender Ron Boyer, presented three professionals who said they think it would be better for Verse, 36, to be allowed to continue to live at a cottage in Bay Point as long as he's subjected to increased monitoring and treatment. Contra Costa County Superior Court Judge John W. Kennedy will rule on Verse's fate Monday after the two lawyers present their closing arguments. Jayne Shale, the community program director for Liberty Healthcare, a firm that contracts with the state Department of Mental Health to monitor Verse, said she's concerned that Verse violated the terms of his release when he was caught driving with a 14-year-old boy after police stopped him for a broken taillight on Nov. 18 in Walnut Creek. Because all of Verse's victims were male, he is barred from driving with male passengers. Shale said she's also concerned that Verse has been "dishonest" about associating with an ex-felon who has convictions on child molestation and illegal weapons charges and writing a letter to a "mentally disordered offender" at Atascadero . Shale said Verse, who works at a cleaning service, also was deceptive with monitoring officials about having contact with a man who runs a Day Care Center at his home. Dale Arnold, a consulting psychologist at Atascadero , said Verse's lapses were the result of "very poor choices" and Verse has "put himself at risk" by his behavior. But Arnold said he believes Verse "has reached the maximum benefit of in-patient treatment" because he was at Atascadero for a long period of time and fears that if he stays there for a long stretch again he will lose the network of supportive friends he currently has in the Bay Point area. Verse has a history of violent sexual assaults against adults, the last one in 1992 against a 22-year-old man at a homeless shelter in Richmond . He spent six years at Atascadero after serving three years in state prison. In February 2004, he became the second designated sex predator released by the Department of Mental Health under a program that provides intensive rehabilitation for the state's most violent offenders. Verse lived for brief periods in Mill Valley, Oakland and San Jose after he was released but he drew huge community protests against him each time. After a hearing at which there were death threats against both Verse and the judge from angry community members, Verse was housed in 2005 at a rental cottage in Bay Point that belongs to local attorneys Anthony Ashe and his wife Ada Araceli Ramirez. The conditions of Verse's release include provisions that he always wear a satellite monitoring device, tell authorities where he's going and which route he plans to take whenever he leaves home, and attend weekly counseling. Verse has also undergone chemical castration. Verse was placed in the Contra Costa County Jail in Martinez after he was taken into custody in November but he later was sent back to Atascadero , where he currently is being housed and treated. Psychiatrist Douglas Tucker, who thinks Verse should remain at Atascadero , testified that he's concerned because Verse at times doesn't believe that he suffers from "deviant sexual arousal." Tucker said Verse's denial is "an ongoing danger for him and for potential victims in the community." The witnesses who testified today all agreed that the 14-year-old boy who was in Verse's car in Walnut Creek had permission from his parents to be with Verse and that Verse hadn't planned to molest the boy. They also agreed that there's no evidence that Verse engaged in any deviant sexual behavior after being released from Atascadero in 2004. But Shale said she's concerned because the 14-year-old rode in Verse's car four or five times, not just once. Tucker said he's worried because two of Verse's previous victims were 14-year-old boys. "He's a smart guy and he knows better than all of us who his victims are and who he's attracted to," Tucker said. Tucker said Verse has " a history of deviant sexual arousal" with 14-year-old boys. In addition, Tucker said he's concerned that Verse hasn't resolved the conflict between his own homosexual behavior and his strong adherence to the Jehovah's Witnesses faith, which disapproves of homosexuality. By the end of the day, everyone seemed to be worn out by all the testimony about Verse's criminal and sexual history and his prospects for the future. Haynes said, "That was a lot of shrinks in one day."

  • DannyHaszard
    DannyHaszard
    said he's concerned that Verse hasn't resolved the conflict between his own homosexual behavior
  • DannyHaszard
    DannyHaszard

    http://www.google.com/search?q=%22carey+verse&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7 lots of links on this popular Jehovah's Witness Carey Verse

  • avidbiblereader
    avidbiblereader

    Eccl, 8:11-13

    11 Because sentence against a bad work has not been executed speedily, that is why the heart of the sons of men has become fully set in them to do bad. 12 Although a sinner may be doing bad a hundred times and continuing a long time as he pleases, yet I am also aware that it will turn out well with those fearing the [true] God, because they were in fear of him. 13 But it will not turn out well at all with the wicked one, neither will he prolong his days that are like a shadow, because he is not in fear of God.

    "Hell is coming for breakfast"- quote from Indian in "Outlaw of Josse Wells", but it wont be through JW's or their little Judical cases.

    abr

  • DannyHaszard
    DannyHaszard

    KCRA.com
    Verse sent to hospital for breach in conduct
    Contra Costa Times, CA - 1 2 minutes ago
    Protesters drove him outof Mill Valley, Oakland and San Jose before he settled in Bay Point, where he was embraced by a Jehovah's Witnesses congregation ...
    Verse ordered back to mental hospitalMercury-Register
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  • DannyHaszard
    DannyHaszard

    Verse now seeks total freedom
    Contra Costa Times, CA - 13 minutes ago
    Now, his section of his four-man bedroom is bare, except for two issues of the Jehovah's Witness magazine, Watchtower, leaning upright on a window sill next ... [email protected] send comments to reporter

    Verse now seeks total freedom

    If a judge finds there is not enough evidence for a trial or if a jury decides in his favor, the sex offender could have no restrictions

    By Bruce Gerstman
    CONTRA COSTA TIMES

    ATASCADERO - Early evening curfews bother Cary Verse. So does carrying a GPS device and getting official permission to give someone a ride in his car. The four-time sex offender said he has found himself in a locked hospital again because many of the rules he had to follow while living in society were too strict. He grew frustrated with them. While he lived in his own apartment in Bay Point, he hurt nobody. He had no desire to, he said. But he chafed under the conditions of his release. His return to Atascadero State Mental Hospital came after police found him driving with an unauthorized male passenger in his car. He said he regrets his mistake. He let down friends who were helping him start a new life. But, after a month and a half at Atascadero, he has a new sense of clarity. He now wants total freedom and intends to show a jury that he can handle it. "Do I have what I need to live unconditionally?" Verse said, walking around the halls of the maximum security hospital. "Absolutely. A community, friends, job opportunities." He intends to bring his case to trial, tentatively set for April 30. A Contra Costa County jury will decide whether, despite his violation of a condition of his first release, he is capable of living in society again, this time without restrictions. If he loses, he must return to the hospital indefinitely until a judge grants him a conditional release similar to how he lived before. He is taking a gamble because, like most sex offenders in the state's sexually violent predator program, he has only one chance to convince a jury to release him unconditionally from the hospital. Verse appears relaxed in the hospital. He had lived in the same wing -- reserved for the hospital's 218 sexually violent predators -- for six years before his release in 2004. He grew to accept life there. "I was putting pictures up on my walls," he said of his first stint. "I wasn't thinking about what I might miss." Now, his section of his four-man bedroom is bare, except for two issues of the Jehovah's Witness magazine, Watchtower, leaning upright on a window sill next to his bed. He is looking forward to getting out, and he intends on sticking to his goals of going to college and becoming a chef. "I don't expect to be here for a long, long time," he said. "I've had to put a lot of my life on hold. But I still feel like a taxpayer." He still hopes to marry and have children, despite his sexual feelings for men. A Superior Court judge returned him to the hospital after Walnut Creek police in November found a 14-year-old boy, the son of friends, as a passenger in his car. They had pulled him over because of a broken tail light. He did not violate a law, but he did break a rule of his conditional release. Verse offers no excuse. He said he felt frustrated at having to stick to dozens of strict rules for three years and became overconfident. "This was not a sex offense, but I'm sure it felt that way to many people," he said. He was living in Bay Point after undergoing six years of therapy in which psychologists eventually recommended that he could live outside a locked facility if closely supervised. Liberty Health Care Corp. contracted with the state's Department of Mental Health to supervise him. Verse rarely, if ever, complained publicly while out of custody about the restrictions he lived under -- from chemical castration to curfews. He always arrived in court hearings wearing a dark suit. He carried a Bible in one hand and a GPS in the other, and he politely answered any questions. At first, he said that the restrictions keep predators such as him from reoffending. Over time, he said he came to believe that he could live without the rules. But the state's financial support for therapy, food and housing helped him keep his life stable. Now, he thinks he can do it himself. "I am confident in myself that I will never commit another crime again," he said. "Especially sex offenses." Verse was convicted of adult charges of assaulting four males from 1988 to 1992. He assaulted a 14-year-old when he was 17, a 17-year-old when he was 18, another 14-year-old when he was 19 and a 23-year-old when he was 21. Since his return to Atascadero, hospital psychologists have placed him in the final of four stages of the in-hospital treatment program for sex offenders who wish to leave the hospital under supervision -- the same final step he completed before his 2004 release. His current schedule in the final stage of the program gives Verse a lot of free time. He attends group therapy sessions for three hours each week, discussing with other patients the possible situations they could face out of custody -- protests, angry neighbors, rude comments at the grocery store -- and how to stay upbeat rather than spiral into depression. "People who have difficulty coping with stressful life situations get into this criminal behavior as a way of coping," said Jesus Padilla, the hospital's clinical psychology specialist. "It's a release from the stress." Individual therapy takes up about one hour a week for Verse. He goes to the gym and to Jehovah's Witness religious services twice a week. And he is trying to learn Spanish on audio tapes. "Since I've got more time on my hands, I might as well make the best of it," he said. Patients such as Verse spend their first three stages of treatment in more rigorous therapy, Padilla said. Verse had worked up to this point during his first six years here, passing tests along the way. Men trying to leave the hospital on conditional release must pass polygraph tests to help make sure they are being honest about all offenses they have committed, Padilla said. Doctors ask about possible other sexual assaults they might have gotten away with, as well as details of their crimes, comparing them to victims' statements or doctors' reports. They must also pass a test in which doctors attach an instrume nt to a patient's genitals, show images and audio of staged sexual assaults to determine whether the patient grows excited. "It's quite intrusive," Padilla said. He says he believes that sex offenders can learn to control themselves and live out of custody without continuing to act on their impulses. "Most of the world controls their impulses," Padilla said. "I think it is possible." Contra Costa County deputy district Attorney Brian Haynes is set to present recent psychologists' reports about Verse to a Superior Court judge on March 9. The judge will decide whether enough evidence exists to hold a jury trial to decide whether he should be released unconditionally. If the judge does not find enough evidence, Verse would get to go free, with no restrictions. Judges usually order trials. At trial, Verse can try to persuade a jury that Haynes' evidence fails to prove that he is a threat and that he should live without monitoring. "There would be absolutely no restrictions on his behavior," Haynes said. "He would literally have to commit another crime for any action to be taken and be placed back into a custodial setting. Any continuing treatment would be optional on his part." If Verse loses, he would be sent back to a hospital, requesting a judge every year to review his case again. "I feel like if I don't go to trial," Verse said, "I will always regret it." Reach Bruce Gerstman at 925-952-2670 or [email protected].

  • betterdaze
    betterdaze

    ***Contra Costa County deputy district Attorney Brian Haynes is set to present recent psychologists' reports about Verse to a Superior Court judge on March 9.***

    Brian F. Haynes
    Lead Attorney
    725 Court Street, 4th Floor
    Martinez, CA 94553
    (925) 957-2200
    (925) 957-2240
    [email protected]

    http://www.contracostada.org/units_mental_health_litigation.htm

  • AnneB
    AnneB

    http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_17486124?nclick_check=1

    Cary Verse loses outpatient status, back in sexually violent predator program

    By Malaika Fraley
    Contra Costa Times

    Posted: 02/25/2011 07:19:51 PM PST Updated: 02/25/2011 07:19:53 PM PST

    MARTINEZ -- A local sex offender was booted from an outpatient program Friday, clearing the way for attorneys to argue next month whether he should be recommitted indefinitely to a state hospital for sexually violent predators.

    Contra Costa Judge John Kennedy said that Cary Verse, 40, "put himself at significant risk of relapsing" when he violated terms of a conditional release program by befriending a 24-year-old man in his group therapy. The man, referred to in court as John Doe, disclosed the friendship to his therapist in recent weeks, which led to an investigation.

    "I just violated the terms of the program, I don't have a good reason," Verse testified before the judge's ruling. "It seemed like a good idea at the time."

    Verse went to prison and later Atascadero State Hospital for sexual assaults on teen boys and a young man from 1988 to 1992. In 2004, Verse was one of the first people in the state to be released from Atascadero hospital after completing a state program for sexually violent predators. It took a year for officials to eventually find him housing in Bay Point because of protests.

    Kennedy noted Friday that Verse has committed no crimes since his release and has a good reputation in the community, where he is active in a local church. However, earlier this month, he was sent to Coalinga State Hospital for the second time in five years for violating terms of his conditional release program operated by Liberty Healthcare.



    His outpatient status was previously revoked in 2006 after he was caught driving with a friend's minor son.

    "One would have thought that would have led him to avoid any further relapses," Kennedy said.

    Despite knowing rules that participants in group therapy cannot mingle, Verse testified that he became friends with Doe last May or June as they rode the same BART line after their weekly sessions. Eventually, the two men started talking in the phone.

    Last fall, Verse twice went to Doe's house, to give him and then take back an Xbox video game console. Verse said he gave the gift because he empathized with Doe that he had no entertainment while on house arrest, but later took it back because Verse had lost his job and needed money from a refund.

    Both times Verse, who is monitored by GPS, falsely wrote on his daily transportation log that he was looking at bicycle parts when he went to Doe's.

    Verse said he and Doe mutually agreed to end their friendship in December so as not to risk program revocation. He never had sexual feelings or intentions for Doe, Verse said.

    Deputy district attorney David Brown argued Friday that Verse knowingly violated the rules and covered up his actions, demonstrating he is not fit for the program. Brown said Verse was "potentially grooming" Doe and called Verse's attentions "unwarranted." Verse's attorney Laurie Mont said that Verse is "very willing to work hard to regain the trust of Liberty."

    The attorneys return to court March 25 to argue Brown's petition to have Verse recommitted indefinitely.

  • Snoozy
    Snoozy

    Chemically castrated? What about the real thing.....

    After reading this I wonder why they even bother..

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    Chemical castration is the administration of medication designed to reduce libido and sexual activity, usually in the hope of preventing rapists, child molesters and other sex offenders from repeating their crimes. Unlike surgical castration, where the testes are removed through an incision in the scrotum, [ 1 ] chemical castration does not actually castrate the person, nor is it a form of sterilization. For this reason the term "chemical castration" has been called a misnomer. [ 2 ]

    Chemical castration is generally considered reversible when treatment is discontinued; in the case of Depo Provera, "no permanent physical change is wrought in the body." [ 2 ] Castration has, from time to time, been used as an instrument of public and/or judicial policy despite concerns over human rights and possible side effects. [ 3 ] [ 4 ]

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    [edit] Application

    Chemical castration involves the administration of anti-androgen drugs, such as cyproterone or the birth-control drug Depo-Provera, which is given as an injection every three months, making compliance easier to track.

    [edit] Effects

    When used by men, these drugs can reduce sex drive, compulsive sexual fantasies, and capacity for sexual arousal. Life-threatening side effects are rare, but some users show increases in body fat and reduced bone density, which increase long-term risk of cardiovascular disease and osteoporosis. They may also experience other "feminizing" effects such as gynecomastia, [ 5 ] [ 6 ] reduced body hair, [ 7 ] and loss of muscle mass. [ 8 ]

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    Regarding the part I read in another post that he was shown explicite sexual pictures and they had a monitor attached to see if he was aroused? I wonder if he was on the medicine when they did that test?

    I looked it up because I read in one of his comments in the previously posted article about how he wanted someday to marry and have children. Apparently chemical castration can be reversed..

    Knowing our ding dong court systems they probably gave him pills and told him to be sure to take them. (even tho it said it is usually given as an injection every three months)..

    Snoozy

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