I woke up to my JW mom reading JW literature to my stomach

by unbeliever 40 Replies latest jw friends

  • blondie

    I kept going by this thread and wondering what hit me wrong about it.

    Then it dawned on me, this woman was demonstrating that she had elevated the WTS publications above the Bible itself. Instead of reading the Bible to your unborn child, she felt that the WTS scribble was more important.............

    (Matthew 15:9) It is in vain that they keep worshiping me, because they teach commands of men as doctrines.’"

    (Mark 7:7) It is in vain that they keep worshiping me, because they teach as doctrines commands of men.’


  • restrangled

    Don't worry, your baby did not comprehend any voices. What he/she can hear is music and the voice of their own mom. Play the masters, Beethoven, Chopin, Rachmaninoff, etc.

    Pick your favorites, this will be to the babies benefit throughout his/her life. Once born, your baby will listen again. My first born was miserable but always settled to the classics. I would lay him in front of the speakers when he couldn't stop crying and he would stop, his eyes would get wide and he would listen.

    Anyone can talk or yell at your stomach, but they will not make a dent into your child's future. Only you and your husband will make that mark.

    Best wishes for your new baby and your new life.


  • parakeet

    ***He ran into him at the Library and told him he could not wait to be a grandfather and was looking forward to the day my son called him grandpa. What is the point of that? It made dad so mad.***
    That's exactly why he did it -- to make your dad angry. More JW christian love in action.
    I drew the line in the sand when my son was small, and my parents never stepped over it. They knew I would not have let them see him if they insisted on force-feeding "truth" to him. Fortunately, they chose love for their grandson over their WTS imperatives. Your parents may need an ultimatum: Keep their religious views to themselves or risk being disfellowshipped by you.

  • sass_my_frass

    Ugh! Talk about psychotic guilt trip of the year! What is it with our mothers? Lucky you, living so far from them. Will you have to see her often? It's so hard because, okay I'll just speak for myself here, for so long the little girl in me wanted mum to be able to make things okay. Now I know that mum is a little girl herself.

    Anyway back to you... I can see your mum picturing her fantasy scenario in which your stepfather studies with your baby's father, and he brings you and the baby into the fold too. You get married, the father realises that he's been living too materially so quits his job and takes up a cleaning contract, you move in two doors down, and you all go out on field service together. In their minds it's practically inevitable.

    You've got to be clear with them; and set the rules. This is your baby and your life. They only get to see it and you if..... (insert your rules here).

    I'm so glad that you're doing well. Have you decided where to live?

  • freetosee

    It must have been creepy waking up. JW’s (I guess most other cult members are just the same) do the weirdest things. I’d love to hear her side of the story when she goes home to her congregation. I’m sure she prays for Jehovah to make the seed grow which she planted.

    Her thinking is twisted but at least the motive was good. What her new husband told your father was pure provocation, since you are not d’f they might think you are closer to them as to him. I am happy your father was able to tell you about this.

    Sorry about the harassment. I am so glad I don’t have to deal with it anymore. My father who is still an active witness I choose to have nothing to do with.

    All the best for you.


  • greendawn

    Does that mean that the JW relatives that do not shun still cause problems in other ways and it would be better if they kept their distance? They try to indoctrinate young family members and if successful they will then get them to shun their DFed or DAed parents!!!

  • unbeliever


    It's very cheap to fly to my city. I've lived here about a year and she has come to visit about 6 times, mostly long weekends. A lot of her family lives here as well so it's just not me and her thank goodness. When I told her about my pregnancy she actually behaved like a normal mother for a while and was not judgmental at all. She was very supportive. It shocked the hell out of me considering the circumstances. At the same time I feel she is being so hypocritcial. My sister got df'd for my same "sin" and here she is being so supportive to me. The only difference is I was never baptized so she can be there for me unlike my sister. Maybe she feels this is her last chance to be a real grandmother. She has alientated my other siblings and she has virtually no contact with my sister kids and my brother supervises her visits since she told his oldest son Santa was fake. My youngest brother does not want kids and he can barely stand her. I have told her that I did not want her witnessing to this baby and not to force my hand like she did my brother.

    I think they are dilluted enough to believe that they can get the babys father to be a witness AND maybe they can use him to have more access to the baby by telling him how wonderful their religion is. Moms husband told him about how he is sure he has heard a lot of negative stuff about the witnesses and that if he truly wanted to be objective that he should have a bible study. It took all my strength not to burst out laughing. Truth be told he thinks the witness religion is and I quote rubbish and thinks they are brainwashed and need counseling to get deprogrammed. They are wasting their time but he will have to be the one to tell them where he stands. Right now he is being polite. He feels kind of sorry for them because they are brainwashed but he can only be pushed so far. It worries me that that he feels sorry for them because of their brainwashing. When you feel sorry for someone especially under these circumstances I think it leaves you open to being manipulated. There is some hope though. I think my stepfather has got some con in him and is always starting these side businesses that fail. I am just waiting until he approaches him to fiance some business venture. I cannot wait for the day. When this happens any sympathy he has for him will vanish. I know he is just waiting for the perfect time to ask him and I cannot wait to see what kind of spin he puts on it. If he tries to use the fact they are now "family" into it. I can hardly wait.

    I don't like my stepfather. I never have. He dragged me into more than one elders meeting when I was younger and I will never forget that. I only tolerate him because he makes mom happy. I told dad not to worry he will not be playing grandfather to my child.

    I have decided to stay put in the US. I am still thinking about spending my maternity leave in London but I have not made a decision on that yet. I spoke to a lawyer and he said I could do it as long as everything was in writing. He said the UK would enforce the custody agreement or not get involved because they would have no jurisdiction. If something had to be hashed out then it would be decided in NV. He has been spending quite a bit of time in the US. Before he said he could only spend a few days at a time but he has been here for several weeks and has been able to run his business long distance. Maybe he is doing a trial run to see if he can run his business from here. He still wants me to move to the UK but has stopped pressuring me.

  • LDH


    She has alientated my other siblings and she has virtually no contact with my sister kids and my brother supervises her visits since she told his oldest son Santa was fake. My youngest brother does not want kids and he can barely stand her. I have told her that I did not want her witnessing to this baby and not to force my hand like she did my brother.

    Can't you just feel her desparation? She has done 'everything right' and you all have turned your back on the truth. She is grasping at straws, holding on to any semblance of a normal family life.

    How pathetic.


  • undercover
    I was laying on the couch taking a nap and she was sitting down and reading to my stomach. I asked her what she was doing and she said giving her grandchild the only spiritual nourishment he probably will ever have

    In addition to being a over-zealous JW, your mom is not that bright...no offense. Does she really think that an unborn baby can understand what's being said? Can this baby know that it is receiving "spiritual nourishment"? Can the baby even hear her?

    I'm sorry but that's just about a dumb a thing as I've heard lately.

    But, on the chance that your mom is right and that this baby is exceptionally smart and all, this prodigy will have no problem in seeing through the bullshit of the WTS and setting your mom straight when she tries to read to him/her in the crib.

  • Axelspeed

    So you woke up with your mom reading Jdub literature to your stomach.I dont think I could add anything that would enhance that visual.

    Take care, recognize what kind of behaviour this really is, and make sure your kid is not exposed to that crap. I know you love your mom, but recognize this pitiable behavior for what it is.

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