I realize people hear lack faith, Can't change them, but may this will help

by jw 51 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • jw
    jw


    The apostle Paul told the Christians in the ancient city of Philippi: "This is what I continue praying, that your love may abound yet more and more with accurate knowledge and full discernment." ( Philippians 1:9 )

    Similarly, accurate knowledge is needed for you to be motivated to believe in God. "Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld," Paul said. ( Hebrews 11:1 )

    1 Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld. 2 For by means of this the men of old times had witness borne to them.

    3 By faith we perceive that the systems of things were put in order by Gods word, so that what is beheld has come to be out of things that do not appear.

    4 By faith Abel offered God a sacrifice of greater worth than Cain, through which [faith] he had witness borne to him that he was righteous, God bearing witness respecting his gifts; and through it he, although he died, yet speaks.

    5 By faith Enoch was transferred so as not to see death, and he was nowhere to be found because God had transferred him; for before his transference he had the witness that he had pleased God well. 6 Moreover, without faith it is impossible to please [him] well, for he that approaches God must believe that he is and that he becomes the rewarder of those earnestly seeking him.

    7 By faith Noah, after being given divine warning of things not yet beheld, showed godly fear and constructed an ark for the saving of his household; and through this [faith] he condemned the world, and he became an heir of the righteousness that is according to faith.

    8 By faith Abraham, when he was called, obeyed in going out into a place he was destined to receive as an inheritance; and he went out, although not knowing where he was going. 9 By faith he resided as an alien in the land of the promise as in a foreign land, and dwelt in tents with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the very same promise. 10 For he was awaiting the city having real foundations, the builder and maker of which [city] is God.

    11 By faith also Sarah herself received power to conceive seed, even when she was past the age limit, since she esteemed him faithful who had promised. 12 Hence also from one [man], and him as good as dead, there were born [children] just as the stars of heaven for multitude and as the sands that are by the seaside, innumerable.

    13 In faith all these died, although they did not get the [fulfillment of the] promises, but they saw them afar off and welcomed them and publicly declared that they were strangers and temporary residents in the land. 14 For those who say such things give evidence that they are earnestly seeking a place of their own. 15 And yet, if they had indeed kept remembering that [place] from which they had gone forth, they would have had opportunity to return. 16 But now they are reaching out for a better [place], that is, one belonging to heaven. Hence God is not ashamed of them, to be called upon as their God, for he has made a city ready for them.

    17 By faith Abraham, when he was tested, as good as offered up Isaac, and the man that had gladly received the promises attempted to offer up [his] only-begotten [son], 18 although it had been said to him: What will be called your seed will be through Isaac. 19 But he reckoned that God was able to raise him up even from the dead; and from there he did receive him also in an illustrative way.

    20 By faith also Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come.

    21 By faith Jacob, when about to die, blessed each of the sons of Joseph and worshiped leaning upon the top of his staff.

    22 By faith Joseph, nearing his end, made mention of the exodus of the sons of Israel; and he gave a command concerning his bones.

    23 By faith Moses was hid for three months by his parents after his birth, because they saw the young child was beautiful and they did not fear the order of the king.

    24 By faith Moses, when grown up, refused to be called the son of the daughter of Pharaoh,

    25 choosing to be ill-treated with the people of God rather than to have the temporary enjoyment of sin,

    26 because he esteemed the reproach of the Christ as riches greater than the treasures of Egypt; for he looked intently toward the payment of the reward.

    27 By faith he left Egypt, but not fearing the anger of the king, for he continued steadfast as seeing the One who is invisible.

    28 By faith he had celebrated the passover and the splashing of the blood, that the destroyer might not touch their firstborn ones.

    29 By faith they passed through the Red Sea as on dry land, but on venturing out upon it the Egyptians were swallowed up.

    30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell down after they had been encircled for seven days.

    31 By faith Rahab the harlot did not perish with those who acted disobediently, because she received the spies in a peaceable way.

    32 And what more shall I say? For the time will fail me if I go on to relate about Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, David as well as Samuel and the [other] prophets,

    33 who through faith defeated kingdoms in conflict, effected righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions,

    34 stayed the force of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, from a weak state were made powerful, became valiant in war, routed the armies of foreigners.

    35 Women received their dead by resurrection; but other [men] were tortured because they would not accept release by some ransom, in order that they might attain a better resurrection.

    36 Yes, others received their trial by mockings and scourgings, indeed, more than that, by bonds and prisons.

    37 They were stoned, they were tried, they were sawn asunder, they died by slaughter with the sword, they went about in sheepskins, in goatskins, while they were in want, in tribulation, under ill-treatment;

    38 and the world was not worthy of them. They wandered about in deserts and mountains and caves and dens of the earth.

    39 And yet all these, although they had witness borne to them through their faith, did not get the [fulfillment of the] promise,

    40 as God foresaw something better for us, in order that they might not be made perfect apart from us.

  • AuldSoul
    AuldSoul

    Some do, some don't.

    Some recognize that there are considerations that need to be made in social settings to accomodate all types of viewpoints. Some don't.

    I think it is nice what you are trying to do, but I can't really see Paul approaching it that way, can you?

    Respectfully,
    AuldSoul

  • cyrus
    cyrus

    Well if your looking for accurate knowledge you cant go far wront looking on internet check secular history look at both sides of the jw story not just proclaimers book. the society dont have absolute truth.Also faith in christ not the gb leads to salvation.if anyone wants accurate knowledge they need to remove the blinkers and truly search ,if the society have nothing to hide why do they tell us not to look at internet sites that portray them in a bad light ....REMEMBER ...THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

  • blondie
    blondie

    Regardless of their current religious beliefs or lack of, the people here no longer put their faith in the WTS, a human organization.

    Faith misplaced is a dangerous, unhealthy situation.

    Blondie

  • blondie
    blondie

    BTW, jw do you post as "older" on BeliefNet? You have a similar style.

    Blondie

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5


    Regardless of their current religious beliefs or lack of, the people here no longer put their faith in the WTS, a human organization.

    Faith misplaced is a dangerous, unhealthy situation.

    Blondie


    Ditto

    Wouldn't have been better to say "I realize some people here lack faith"? Broad statements like that above tend to turn people off to whatever idea comes next. I have faith, which in no way has anything to do with the WTS

    Josie

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    Faith in what by the way. Faith in God or Faith in the Watchtower Society?

  • seesthesky
    seesthesky

    "hear" - please learn to spell

  • aniron
    aniron


    By what right do you decide that people on here lack faith?

    Is that not for Jehovah to judge? Matt 7:1,2 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

    By such a statement you display an arrogant self-righteous attitude.

    Similar to the Pharisees of Jesus day.

    Eph 2:8,9 "By this undeserved kindness indeed, you have been saved through faith, and this not owing to you, it is God's gift. No it is not owing to works in order that man should have ground for boasting"

  • peacefulpete
    peacefulpete

    An 'accurate knowledge' suggests serious research. May I suggest beginning with authorship of Hebrews. Nearly noone other than JWs and Southern Baptists still claim Paul wrote it.

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