"National experts estimate between 100,000 and 250,000 murderers, rapists, con-artists and Jehovah Witnesses stalk the country at any given time. "Parents are urged to monitor and question their children's activities in real life. The world is a dangerous place." The internet is not the only way a pedophile can lure your child to a local McDonald's," Sgt. Dick Harris of Atlanta, GA said in a press release this morning.
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DannyHaszard
Clarity in laws will protect our children
Concord Monitor, NH - 13 minutes ago
... The confusion between the two bills evolved because of a case involving the Jehovah's Witness faith community and the abuse of two little girls whose mother ...
By Rep. MARY STUART GILEState House memo Clarity in laws will protect our children
For the Monitor
March 01. 2006 8:00AM
When the case same to court in 2003, the attorneys for the elders used the Privileged Communication statute in their defense. The trial court judge agreed and ruled in favor of the elders. The case was appealed to the state Supreme Court, which voted, 3-1, to agree with the trial court's outcomes. Justice Dalianis dissented, stating that in failing to report, and not instructing the other to report, the church elders allowed the abuse to continue. Thus, the Supreme Court is alleged to have acknowledged the ambiguity between the two statutes and implied that it was the Legislature's responsibility to resolve it. A 2005 Concord Monitor editorial stated: "There are no easy answers to the questions the case raises. But the next session of the Legislature needs to spell out when church leaders must live up to the reporting law and when they are exempt. It should also clarify when it is appropriate to sue for civil damages caused by a failure to report abuse." Interim study will enable the Committee on Children and Family Law to examine the issues involved and, by Nov. 1, determine whether resolution of the ambiguity is possible. If so, a new bill will be filed with appropriate amendments. I was asked to sponsor HB 1127 by individuals concerned about child protection and domestic violence. According to the Child Protection Act, child abuse must be reported. Withholding information not only condones the abuse but allows children to continue to be victimized. Our prisons and, to a large extent, our mental health system exist to try to rehab and remedy the effects of child physical, sexual and emotional abuse. The financial costs are staggering, the waste in human potential is tragic. The Legislature's vote for further study is affirming and in the best interest of the state's children. (State Rep. Mary Stuart Gile, a Democrat, lives in Concord.) ------ End of article By Rep. MARY STUART GILE For the Monitor ----------------------------------
he Legislature recently voted to further study a bill that would require clergy of all faiths to report child abuse. The bill involved the New Hampshire Child Protection Act, which is fundamental to the safety and protection of the state's children. Interim study will enable the committee to further investigate issues such as constitutionality and to try to develop a resolution to the ambiguity that exists between state laws. The publicity surrounding the bill totally obscured its purpose. HB 1127 proposes to clarify the ambiguity in two statutes that have been in effect since 1979. The Child Protection Act reporting law mandates everyone, including ministers of all faiths, Christian Science practitioners, priests and rabbis, to report child abuse however and wherever they learn of it. The second statute, the Privileged Communication statute, allows any member of the ordained clergy to refuse to be a witness in a case where the disclosure of the crime was made to him or her in a spiritual setting such as confession. HB1127 does not change that even if it involves a crime against children. The distinction between the two statutes is the "requirement" to report and a conditional exemption from testifying. The confusion between the two bills evolved because of a case involving the Jehovah's Witness faith community and the abuse of two little girls whose mother reported the abuse several times to church elders and was told not to tell anybody. When the abuse was finally reported to the authorities by another party, the perpetrator was found guilty and sentenced to 56 to 112 years in jail.T News departments Concord monitor
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DannyHaszard
Clarity in laws will protect our children
Concord Monitor, NH - 13 minutes ago
... The confusion between the two bills evolved because of a case involving the Jehovah's Witness faith community and the abuse of two little girls whose mother ...
By Rep. MARY STUART GILEState House memo Clarity in laws will protect our children
For the Monitor
March 01. 2006 8:00AM
When the case same to court in 2003, the attorneys for the elders used the Privileged Communication statute in their defense. The trial court judge agreed and ruled in favor of the elders. The case was appealed to the state Supreme Court, which voted, 3-1, to agree with the trial court's outcomes. Justice Dalianis dissented, stating that in failing to report, and not instructing the other to report, the church elders allowed the abuse to continue. Thus, the Supreme Court is alleged to have acknowledged the ambiguity between the two statutes and implied that it was the Legislature's responsibility to resolve it. A 2005 Concord Monitor editorial stated: "There are no easy answers to the questions the case raises. But the next session of the Legislature needs to spell out when church leaders must live up to the reporting law and when they are exempt. It should also clarify when it is appropriate to sue for civil damages caused by a failure to report abuse." Interim study will enable the Committee on Children and Family Law to examine the issues involved and, by Nov. 1, determine whether resolution of the ambiguity is possible. If so, a new bill will be filed with appropriate amendments. I was asked to sponsor HB 1127 by individuals concerned about child protection and domestic violence. According to the Child Protection Act, child abuse must be reported. Withholding information not only condones the abuse but allows children to continue to be victimized. Our prisons and, to a large extent, our mental health system exist to try to rehab and remedy the effects of child physical, sexual and emotional abuse. The financial costs are staggering, the waste in human potential is tragic. The Legislature's vote for further study is affirming and in the best interest of the state's children. (State Rep. Mary Stuart Gile, a Democrat, lives in Concord.) ------ End of article By Rep. MARY STUART GILE For the Monitor ----------------------------------
he Legislature recently voted to further study a bill that would require clergy of all faiths to report child abuse. The bill involved the New Hampshire Child Protection Act, which is fundamental to the safety and protection of the state's children. Interim study will enable the committee to further investigate issues such as constitutionality and to try to develop a resolution to the ambiguity that exists between state laws. The publicity surrounding the bill totally obscured its purpose. HB 1127 proposes to clarify the ambiguity in two statutes that have been in effect since 1979. The Child Protection Act reporting law mandates everyone, including ministers of all faiths, Christian Science practitioners, priests and rabbis, to report child abuse however and wherever they learn of it. The second statute, the Privileged Communication statute, allows any member of the ordained clergy to refuse to be a witness in a case where the disclosure of the crime was made to him or her in a spiritual setting such as confession. HB1127 does not change that even if it involves a crime against children. The distinction between the two statutes is the "requirement" to report and a conditional exemption from testifying. The confusion between the two bills evolved because of a case involving the Jehovah's Witness faith community and the abuse of two little girls whose mother reported the abuse several times to church elders and was told not to tell anybody. When the abuse was finally reported to the authorities by another party, the perpetrator was found guilty and sentenced to 56 to 112 years in jail.T News departments Concord monitor
Newsroom Phone: 603-224-5301 ext. 670
Fax: 603-224-8120
E-mail: [email protected]Letters to the editor Fax: 603-224-8120 ("Attn: Letters to editor")
E-mail: [email protected]http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/misc?Url=/sections/services/contact.pbs Concord Monitor contacts page http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/ns/house/members/rephpage.asp Rep. MARY STUART GILE contact page
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DannyHaszard
Clarity in laws will protect our children
Concord Monitor, NH - 13 minutes ago
... The confusion between the two bills evolved because of a case involving the Jehovah's Witness faith community and the abuse of two little girls whose mother ...
By Rep. MARY STUART GILEState House memo Clarity in laws will protect our children
For the Monitor
March 01. 2006 8:00AM
When the case same to court in 2003, the attorneys for the elders used the Privileged Communication statute in their defense. The trial court judge agreed and ruled in favor of the elders. The case was appealed to the state Supreme Court, which voted, 3-1, to agree with the trial court's outcomes. Justice Dalianis dissented, stating that in failing to report, and not instructing the other to report, the church elders allowed the abuse to continue. Thus, the Supreme Court is alleged to have acknowledged the ambiguity between the two statutes and implied that it was the Legislature's responsibility to resolve it. A 2005 Concord Monitor editorial stated: "There are no easy answers to the questions the case raises. But the next session of the Legislature needs to spell out when church leaders must live up to the reporting law and when they are exempt. It should also clarify when it is appropriate to sue for civil damages caused by a failure to report abuse." Interim study will enable the Committee on Children and Family Law to examine the issues involved and, by Nov. 1, determine whether resolution of the ambiguity is possible. If so, a new bill will be filed with appropriate amendments. I was asked to sponsor HB 1127 by individuals concerned about child protection and domestic violence. According to the Child Protection Act, child abuse must be reported. Withholding information not only condones the abuse but allows children to continue to be victimized. Our prisons and, to a large extent, our mental health system exist to try to rehab and remedy the effects of child physical, sexual and emotional abuse. The financial costs are staggering, the waste in human potential is tragic. The Legislature's vote for further study is affirming and in the best interest of the state's children. (State Rep. Mary Stuart Gile, a Democrat, lives in Concord.) ------ End of article By Rep. MARY STUART GILE For the Monitor
he Legislature recently voted to further study a bill that would require clergy of all faiths to report child abuse. The bill involved the New Hampshire Child Protection Act, which is fundamental to the safety and protection of the state's children. Interim study will enable the committee to further investigate issues such as constitutionality and to try to develop a resolution to the ambiguity that exists between state laws. The publicity surrounding the bill totally obscured its purpose. HB 1127 proposes to clarify the ambiguity in two statutes that have been in effect since 1979. The Child Protection Act reporting law mandates everyone, including ministers of all faiths, Christian Science practitioners, priests and rabbis, to report child abuse however and wherever they learn of it. The second statute, the Privileged Communication statute, allows any member of the ordained clergy to refuse to be a witness in a case where the disclosure of the crime was made to him or her in a spiritual setting such as confession. HB1127 does not change that even if it involves a crime against children. The distinction between the two statutes is the "requirement" to report and a conditional exemption from testifying. The confusion between the two bills evolved because of a case involving the Jehovah's Witness faith community and the abuse of two little girls whose mother reported the abuse several times to church elders and was told not to tell anybody. When the abuse was finally reported to the authorities by another party, the perpetrator was found guilty and sentenced to 56 to 112 years in jail.T -
DannyHaszard
Clarity in laws will protect our children
Concord Monitor, NH - 13 minutes ago
... The confusion between the two bills evolved because of a case involving the Jehovah's Witness faith community and the abuse of two little girls whose mother ... Click and read -
DannyHaszard
HB 1127 New Hampshire House of Representatives
CHILDREN AND FAMILY LAW Committee Mailing ListEdward P. Moran
19 Ministerial Rd
Bedford, NH 03110-5334Karen K. McRae
469 Black Brook Rd
Goffstown, NH 03045-2931Julie M. Brown
414 Lilac City E
Rochester, NH 03867-4552David A. Bickford
183 Brackett Rd
New Durham, NH 03855-2329Carolyn M. Gargasz
PO Box 1223
Hollis, NH 03049-1223Daniel C. Itse
PO Box 70
Fremont, NH 03044-0070Elizabeth D. Blanchard
61 Washington St
Penacook, NH 03303-1525Kathleen F. Souza
628 Belmont St
Manchester, NH 03104-5167Harriet E. Cady
PO Box 149
Deerfield, NH 03037-0149David J. Bettencourt
12 Peggy Ln
Salem, NH 03079-2056Sheila A. Foote
31 Causeway Rd
Swanzey, NH 03446-3601Barbara Hull. Richardson
101 Morgan Rd
Richmond, NH 03470-4909Anne C. Grassie
9 Central Ave
Rochester, NH 03867-2718Mary Stuart. Gile
35 Penacook St
Concord, NH 03301-4518Ruth Ginsburg
6 Dover St
Nashua, NH 03063-2517Eileen C. Flockhart
62 Park Ct
Exeter, NH 03833-1534Anthony P. Matarazzo Sr.
530 Broad St
Nashua, NH 03063-3308Mary Beth Walz
25 One Stack Dr
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DannyHaszard
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carla
Danny,
Is there an actual press release from Atlanta, GA that we can see? (did I miss it in the thread?) I've been searching and can't find it. thanks, if you have it.
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DannyHaszard
Danny,
Is there an actual press release from Atlanta, GA that we can see?
NO not yet,it's not appearing in the keyword google search and it is possible that the 'press release' posted below is fake and made up "National experts estimate between 100,000 and 250,000 murderers, rapists, con-artists and Jehovah Witnesses stalk the country at any given time. "Parents are urged to monitor and question their children's activities in real life. The world is a dangerous place." The internet is not the only way a pedophile can lure your child to a local McDonald's," Sgt. Dick Harris of Atlanta, GA said in a press release this morning.
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Now What?
Greetings All!
As I read this topic, I decided to see if the local "brothers" that were accused in our hall ever made it to the state registry. However, along the way in my search, I stumbled upon this page:
http://www.reformation.com/CSA/variousabuse.html
It highlights several (well, alot actually) headlines of various abuse cases over the past few years that made it to the press. Just scanning down the list made me physically ill (seriously). Unfortunately, I found the page because one of the cases occured in my home town.
Notice how many "Jehovah's Witnesses" are listed. This should be an eye opener for all those lurkers that think the witnesses are any more 'pure' () than anybody else out there. Or for anyone that would like to point a finger in any one direction for that matter. After reading things like this, I can see the need for a push by state intervention into church policing, as Danny highlighted.
Peace to all! Hope everyone is enjoying their ex-jw freedom!
