Shunned on my home turf for the first time!

by AlmostAtheist 35 Replies latest jw friends

  • AlmostAtheist
    AlmostAtheist

    Long story short -- my father-in-law and uncle-in-law came today to buy some appliances from a friend of ours. While my father-in-law seemed willing to stretch the "necessary family business" clause to its limits to talk and joke and be basically human, my uncle was cold as a witch's dead penguin. If I said anything to him related to the task at hand, he answered as minimally as possible. If I said anything unrelated to the task, he totally ignored it.

    In short, I was officially shunned today. He even gave the serious cold-shoulder routine to Gina, who is not officially DF'd. I was amused in a sense. So childish, so strange. I was also disturbed. It made me feel anxious and uncomfortable. Not sure exactly why. Gina later said she felt the same way. We both just wanted it to be over.

    Which raises the question -- will we ever let it happen again? Good question, I don't know. If the same situation came up again, what would we do? We could have avoided it by simply not telling Gina's family that the appliances existed. Of course, it was the uncle that caused the stress. We could mention that we don't want anyone to come along that will shun us, but they'd probably slip into JW-persecution mode and say that they shouldn't come either, then. I'm thinking seriously about cutting these people out of my life altogether. They may simply not be worth the trouble.

    After they left, I went and bought a bottle of champagne. Once properly chilled, we popped it and celebrated our first official shunning. Have a drink with us, and rejoice in the knowledge that you will never be the one shunning someone because a publishing company tells you to.

    *clink!*

    Dave

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    But they'd probably slip into JW-persecution mode and say that they shouldn't come either, then.

    Funny how they are so sensitive to pesecution but dont mind persecuting others. I sure am sorry that you were treated that way. It seems as if you are handling it well, though. I'll join you in your toast:

    *clink*

  • Soledad
    Soledad

    cheers!

    There was an attempt made to shun me in my own home a couple of years ago. I told this person that under no circumstances will I allow myself to be treated like garbage in my house, and that she is free to leave if she can't act civilized! That put an end to it.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    You are intelligent, reasonable, and articulate. You don't strike me as somebody easily cowed. Yet the experience bothered you. I think your experience just goes to show that we are born and bred social beings, and that the shunning practice is cruel and inhuman.

    You are creative. I bet you can come up with a dozen ways to deal with this. Maybe list some and let us all test and rate them? I've used:

    1. Smile, direct eye contact, and firm handshake. Leave smiling.

    2. Write about their ridiculous antics here on JWD. The incident where my hubby and I were shunned but the JW addressed our DOG comes to mind.

    3. Fabricate a ridiculous lie to see how long it takes to spread. I do this to those in-laws who treat us like trailer trash. I keep telling them I am pregnant. When my nosy brother-in-law asked what medication me and my husband were on, I replied "Viagra, he takes it to keep my blood pressure down".

    4. Out-nice them, especially in front of non-JW's.

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  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Soledad: Put an end to what? The shunning or the visits? Either way, I think your stand is key! We deserve to be treated properly in our own homes, and people who WON'T do that have lost the priveledge to visit.

  • greendawn
    greendawn

    It's the hypocricy of it all they say that shunning is done in a spirit of love to bring the ex dubs to their senses, but when is it ever that they showed love? The real motive is obviously one of hatred so they deserve what they get in return.

  • AlmostAtheist
    AlmostAtheist

    >>You are creative. I bet you can come up with a dozen ways to deal with this. Maybe list some and let us all test and rate them?

    Funny you should mention...

    I thought of you today, JGnat. I had to run back to my house to get some tools, and while I was there I filled a travel mug with coffee for my uncle. "Do food". When I got back I set the coffee on the counter top next to him and said, "Here David, I got you some coffee if you want it." Not only did he not say Thank you, he didn't acknowledge it at all. And of course, he never drank any. "Drink not with thine enemies" -- Klingon Credo.

    I tried simply being nice. Jovial, amiable. Helpful. No good effect.

    In the back of my mind, I was imagining that this may be a first little knick in their armor, and over time perhaps they'd warm up. That's when I started to think along the "not-f'ing-worth-it" lines. Screw that, I couldn't help thinking, like I'm really gonna pussy-foot around for years in the hopes of one day getting these people to act civilly towards me. No, not likely.

    Of course, I also thought of GaryBuss. "I'd sue them if they DIDN'T shun me." I heard him say, "When JW's shun me, every day is like Christmas morning!" Ah, Gary. You da man.

    Not sure where I stand on all this. I need to sleep on it. Drinking on it doesn't seem to be clearing it up, but I *DO* seem to be caring less about it! :-)

    Dave

  • willowmoon
    willowmoon

    Let them go. They're the ones who have to live with their consciences.

    It made me feel anxious and uncomfortable.

    Of course it did. Being obviously ignored makes any caring person feel uncomfortable.

    Be glad that you are beyond such silly hypocritical behavior and hold your family a little closer in gratitude. If the others do wake up to the cruelty of their actions, welcome them back with an open heart (and bottle of wine).

    I'm impressed. You couldn't have been too devastated if you had the foresight to properly chill the wine -- instead of just popping the cork and guzzling!!!

    Cheers here's to you and Gina!

    willow

  • IronClaw
    IronClaw
    I'm thinking seriously about cutting these people out of my life altogether. They may simply not be worth the trouble.

    Hi Dave, I have all but cut everybody off by my not going to meetings anymore. Im still not DF'd yet, though I think its just a matter of time. I've been shunned since I left, so no big deal there. Where I draw the line is at My house. I flat out refuse to be disrespected in my own house by anybody. This includes phone calls. I have already had it out with a couple of sisters calling to speak to my wife. I told them if they cant have the common courtesy to say Hello, how are you, and then ask to speak to my wife, I would hang up. ( These are sisters who would all but flirt we me before asking to speak to my wife ) Now I dont exist. I'm a person not an operator. I have no control as to how people treat me on the outside, but I'll be damned if I will be treated this way in my own house.

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