Flier on "Day and Week of Christ's Death" to be mailed out to Kingdom Halls this week!

by CharlieSmith1975 40 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • CharlieSmith1975
    CharlieSmith1975

    You guys are right. This is way, way too intellectual for the average witness or even elder who really don't even know what the WTS teaches about this! Maybe the flier will relate to 10% of those who actually read it. But the GB and the Writing Committee will totally understand this.

    C

  • steve2
    steve2

    Oh man Charlie you are so caught up in the organization fulfilling scripture that you are the mirror image of JW dogmatism. Like all "true" believers, you seek not feedback but agreement with your beliefs and methods.

    Ultimately, all you succeed in doing is feeding the JW persecution complex.

  • CharlieSmith1975
    CharlieSmith1975

    Steve, thanks for the feedback!

    steve211 minutes ago

    Oh man Charlie you are so caught up in the organization fulfilling scripture that you are the mirror image of JW dogmatism. Like all "true" believers, you seek not feedback but agreement with your beliefs and methods.

    Ultimately, all you succeed in doing is feeding the JW persecution complex.

    Answer me just this ONE question. The Bible says Jesus was in the grave THREE NIGHTS. If he rose on a Saturday night, then two nights earlier are Friday night and Thursday night. So, there's no issue, right/ He has to die on a Thursday. In 33 CE, Thursday, Nisan 20th, was a day of preparation. Jesus dies on a day of preparation. So to me, it's a done deal at this point. The Jews left on the 15th after passover so Jesus was arrested on the 15th after Passover. That's NON-NEGOTIABLE. So this is a done deal. Jesus has to die on Thursday, nisan 20th, and the gospels are all in harmony on this. This is about vindicating the gospels. The WTS gets it wrong and then makes it seem like some Biblical references are false. Jehovah didn't give them this light because they are cast out.

    Thanks for your feedback. But yes, I do believe the Bible and I'm a total fundamentalist. But I have lots and lots of support for my conclusions. I did my OWN research.

  • insidetheKH
    insidetheKH

    @Charlie all that people would think if they saw your flyer is that you are just another idiot with somekind of religious-complex.

    Anyway... Nisan the 14th was celebrated/remembered by christians since the first century

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartodecimanism

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    @Charlie all that people would think if they saw your flyer is that you are just another idiot with somekind of religious-complex.

    Anyway... Nisan the 14th was celebrated/remembered by christians since the first century.....insidetheKH

    Only WatchTards Celebrate on Nissan 14..

    Passover - Pesach:
    History & Overview

    Introduction

    Introduction

    Passover begins on the 15th day of the Jewish month of Nissan. It is the first of the three major festivals with both historical and agricultural significance (the other two are Shavu’ot and Sukkot). Agriculturally, it represents the beginning of the harvest season in Israel. The primary observances of Passover are related to the Exodus from Egypt after 400 years of slavery as told in the biblical Book of Exodus from chapters 1 to 15.

    You would think the WBT$ would do a minimal amount of research..

    To celebrate on the correct date..

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  • insidetheKH
    insidetheKH

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartodecimanism

    Christians in the churches of Jerusalem and Antioch in the Roman province of Asia (Western Anatolia) celebrated Passover on the 14th of the first month (Aviv)

    In the mid–second century, the practice in the Roman province of Asia was for the pre-Paschal fast to end and the feast to be held on the 14th day (the full moon) of the Jewish lunar month of Nisan, the date on which the Passover sacrifice had been offered when the Second Temple stood, and "the day when the people put away the leaven".[5] Those who observed this practice were called Quartodecimani, Latin for "fourteenthers", because of holding their celebration on the fourteenth day of Nisan.

    The practice had been followed by Polycarp, who was a disciple of John the Apostle and bishop of Smyrna (c. 69 – c. 155) - one of the seven churches of Asia, and by Melito of Sardis (d. c. 180).[5] Irenaeus says that Polycarp visited Rome when Anicetus was its bishop (c. 153–68), and among the topics discussed was this divergence of custom, with Rome instituting the festival of Easter in place of the Pasch. Irenaeus noted:

    Neither could Anicetus persuade Polycarp not to observe what he had always observed with John the disciple of our Lord, and the other apostles with whom he had associated; neither could Polycarp persuade Anicetus to observe it, as he said that he ought to follow the customs of the presbyters that had preceded him.[6]

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    So they got it wrong too..LOL!!..The WBT$ just followed along.

    Why would Jews know anything about the origins of their own celebration?!!..LOL!!

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW
    1. From Wikipedia
    2. Some Christians observe the celebration on the day before Passover, at the same time that Jesus held his Last Supper, while others observe it at the same time that the Passover was sacrificed, that is, the time of Jesus' death, which occurred "at the ninth hour" of the day (Matthew 27:46-50, Mark 15:34-37, Luke 23:44-46), or approximately 3:30 p.m, according to the Synoptic Gospels. (see evening and Time for technical reference on time).
    3. Still others celebrate it after sunset, at which time it would be the 15th of Nisan, the time in which the Israelites ate the Passover meal (for example see Exodus 12:8).
  • insidetheKH
    insidetheKH

    (Leviticus 23:5) 5 In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month, between the two evenings is the passover to Jehovah.

    (Numbers 28:16) “‘And in the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month, will be Jehovah’s passover.


    (Ezekiel 45:21) 21 “‘In the first [month], on the fourteenth day of the month, there should occur for YOU the passover. . . .

    Jehovah’s Witnesses observe the Memorial after sundown on Nisan 14, according to the reckoning of the Jewish calendar that was common in the first century. The Jewish day begins at sundown and extends until the following sundown. So Jesus died on the same Jewish calendar day that he instituted the Memorial. The beginning of the month of Nisan was the sunset after the new moon nearest the spring equinox became visible in Jerusalem. The Memorial date is 14 days thereafter. (Thus the date for the Memorial may not coincide with that of the Passover kept by modern-day Jews. Why not? The start of their calendar months is set to coincide with the astronomical new moon, not the visible new moon over Jerusalem, which may come 18 to 30 hours later. Also, most Jews today keep the Passover on Nisan 15, not on the 14th as did Jesus in harmony with what was stated in the Mosaic Law.)

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    (Leviticus 23:5) 5 In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month, between the two evenings is the passover to Jehovah......insidetheKH

    You know what one of the worst things about JWs is?!..

    They`re good with telling only part of a story..

    Presenting only some of the information,when they know full well there`s more..

    Leviticus 23:5-8New International Version (NIV)

    5 The Lord’s Passover begins at twilight on the fourteenth day of the first month. 6 On the fifteenth day of that month the Lord’s Festival of Unleavened Bread begins; for seven days you must eat bread made without yeast. 7 On the first day hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work. 8 For seven days present a food offering to the Lord. And on the seventh day hold a sacred assembly and do no regular work..

    Even worse..

    There`s very few JWs "Honest Enough" to be "Ashamed of Themselves" for Doing It..

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