by Scully 58 Replies latest jw friends
Yea, and their actions are even more truer in color.
When I see a jw, I KNOW what they are thinking. That's why I shut them down every time. I tell them how transparent they are. That I KNOW why they are at my door. To please respect my intelligence by not insulting it.
Their minds are easy to read and their masks do not impress me.
sKally
I take johnnycip's approach... I like to challenge them, face to face, on their beliefs and policies. They don't last long on the porch. In fact, last two times they were around, they skipped my house. Doi!
After they ask if I'm concerned about the world and its condition these days, I ask them why they care about my concerns. That is a stumper for them.
So I simply ask that if I do not accept a bible study soon, and accept THROUGH BAPTISM EVENTUALLY that the WTBTS is jehovah wt god's earthly org.,these being the last days and all, I'm really going to die at Armageddon? Isn't that really what is taught? Isn't that really why you go door to door? TO SAVE YOURSELF FROM DEATH AT jehovahs HANDS? Isn't this YOUR true concern?
Ha!! That does it usually. They split. As they should. That should be their clue.
sKally, give 'em hell klass...LOLOLOLOL
My family have spent the last few months bringing up ever possible bad thing that i have done or said, every time i have been down etc as proof against me that I am now an evil person.
My mother sent an sms saying she no longer has anything proud left to say about me to any of her friends. The fact that i have a beautiful family, friends, house, job, cafe and am now the happiest i have ever been in my religious beliefs seem to account for nothing to her.
Richie:
I can totally relate to the cruel comments coming from JW parents...........
My own mother said similar things to me while I was growing up.
My JW father once told me that it was good thing I was not that intelligent because it would be too frustrating for me to remain a JW. His reasoning was that it was better not be intelligent because that would help one to remain a JW and keep one from being tempted to go to college and get a worldly education which is a waste of time in his JW opinion.
I wonder if that is why, after I left Bethel, I got so motivated in going to school and eventually got my Ph.D. in Biochemistry. :)
The best revenge for us ex-JWs is to live well.
Jeff S.
P.S. My non-JW siblings tell me that our non-JW relatives always say things to my JW parents like, "You must be so proud of your son Jeff who has gone to college and done so well etc, etc." LOL My sister says that whenever my non-JW aunts and uncles do this to my JW parents she can just feel them cringe. ;)
When I was in the borg at my most entrenched, I was in the top cliques (it freaks me out completely now). I used to hear the most horrendous comments from supposedly ultra-spiritual elders and COs. The way they would make disparaging comments about those who were physically or mentally-disabled, poor, beauty-challenged, or older make me ill to this day. After that experience, it broke down the mystique of these larger-than-life figures on the stages at the conventions. All I saw was hypocrisy. The veil was lifted. I started to see how those who had the most money also had the most influence on local unwritten policies on moral issues. I no longer believed that the org was the the inspired channel of Jehovah because, despite the claims of some, corruption didn't "eventually come out." The corrupt elder went on to be the corrupt substitute CO who moved on to a permanent CO assignment. I remember sitting at assemblies with a disgusting taste in my mouth as I watched them march up to the podium knowing that they had conveniently gave the CO $2000 a couple months before the assignments for speakers came out.
HS
It was suggested that I repost what happened to me. These stories are heart breaking. I am so glad to be out of that cult. Here it is from my original thread:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/81120/1.ashx
Hello,I am the original Chasity. I lost my password and don't even remember the e-mail address I used. So anyway I am back. I apologise for not updating more sooner. I decided to let my sister and her husband stay with us. I told them before they came no shunning. I would not feel unwelcome in my own home. It turned out to be quite a visit. It turns out their reason for coming was more than a vacation. They wanted to move to my area because the ecomony is good and hoped that I could help them out. My brother was like I told you so. I don't know why but I asked my husband to use some of his contacts and help my brother in law find a job.
So not only did I help them find jobs I gave them a place to live. My husband and I just bought a new house and we planned to keep our old one as an investment and lease it. We let them live in it 2 months free so they could get on their feet. The mortage on the house is $1200 a month so for a time we were paying 2 morgages (more on that later). Fortunately my husband is successful so we could afford it. We could have rent the house for $1500 but we let them rent for $1200.
I never did have any false illusions about being one big happy family and knew our contact would be minimal because I am df'd. Still I was happy I could help them.
Things were actually okay for a few months. Then the trouble started. My brother inlaw was fired from his job. He said it was a layoff but we found out that he was not dependable and always late. He's an elder by the way. This really pissed my husband off because he recommended him and that made him look bad where his friend was concerned.
So they could not afford to pay the rent. I told them they had to leave. I even helped them find an apartment but the only place they could afford was on the bad side of town. My sister cried and cried saying that she did not want to live in a bad neighborhood. I told her I was sorry but her husband burned his bridges with my husband and he will not help him anymore. I told her I was not going to risk my marriage so she did not have to live on the bad side of town.
She called me a couple of days later and said that Jehovah had provided and they would be able to pay the rent. I was like great. I found out later on how they were able to pay the rent. They rented out 3 of the bedrooms to fellow witnesses who were paying them rent. I was not happy with the plan but I was like whatever. As long as they pay the rent. That will keep my husband happy.
They charged the witnesses $400 rent and well they did not have to chip in any themselves. I guess all they paid for was the utilities.
The Home Owners Association started writing us letters telling us that they were not following the rules. Anyone who lives in a HOA knows what a pain in the butt they can be. They were parking in the street and the back yard was in terrible shape. Some of the neighbors complained that an ulgy view it was from their second story view. They would have pool parties at the club house and only 4 guests per house could come and swim according to the HOA rules. They invited like 20 people. They told us they would start fining us for every infraction.
I was like oh dear. I told my sister and her husband I had it. They had to go. I did not care if she could pay the rent now or not. I had it. It soon became apparent they had no intention of leaving. My husband went to his lawyer and he drew up the papers and had them evicted. They had 30 days to move. When that time came I am not kidding you we had to have the police escort them out. Their houseguests had already left.
Let me tell you this was one of the most miserable experiences. I am so pissed off by their attutide and taking advantage of me I am suing them for all their back rent. I had my sister served at her work. They are still in my city. I don't know where I don't care.
If it was not bad enough how they treated me you would not believe who they asked for money to help them out. My brother who they have not spoken to in years and consider an apostate. He laughed over the phone and told them he knew what they did to me and called them worthless freeloading leaches. Then he hung up.
My mom called me on the phone and we have not talked in years either. She chewed me out for having them evicted. I was so upset I could not stop crying. My husband took the phone and told her all the things they did and how much trouble they caused us. How we did nothing but show kindness to them and all they did was take, take, take and take some more. He told her that no active JW would ever be welcome in his house, only apostates and that she was to never call our house again unless she left her cult then hung up.
We are now back to leading our lives without my toxic JW family. I just wanted to post my experience that sometimes it really is a blessing not having them in your lives. I know this does not apply to everyone but in my case it does. Just think twice before you allow your JW family to come for a visit.
I forgot to add one thing. They left the house in terrible shape. The walls were dirty and the carpet was completely ruined. We had to replace all the carpet and repaint the whole house. Some of the celing fans were broken and the sliding glass door was broken. We had to hire a landscaper to come and fix the backyard. Their were holes all over the yard and shit all over the place from a pet dog that one of the witnesses had. In one of the bedrooms a showerhead was gone. Most of the damages are included in my lawsuit.
There was a really self-righteous pioneer elder in our hall who would stand at the exit doors of the hall after the sunday meeting (he had a thing that everyone must go out on f/s, even the old ones who had been in pain sitting so long etc!!)
- when you said "bye" as you were passing him, he would retort "bye now, pay later" - this is his take on the advertising slogan `buy now, pay later` (you knew that though). It was as if we were fundamentally wicked/selfish etc for going out on the f/s. Most of us were running the older bros/sis home - something he never done. He would go mental if you ever asked him to run someone home from a meeting.
It`s a small thing, but most dreaded having to walk past him at the door of the hall - a nice thought to go away with from the shepherd, yeah, really encouraging!!
ammendment to previous post;
- when you said "bye" as you were passing him, he would retort "bye now, pay later" - this is his take on the advertising slogan `buy now, pay later` (you knew that though). It was as if we were fundamentally wicked/selfish etc for NOT going out on the f/s. Most of us were running the older bros/sis home - something he never done. He would go mental if you ever asked him to run someone home from a meeting.
It is quite disgusting how some people will go out of their way to say and do cruel and hurtful things. Says a lot about them though, doesn't it?
when you said "bye" as you were passing him, he would retort "bye now, pay later"
Wow, he sounds like an obnoxious @ss. I wonder what his reply would have been if you'd have said "toodle-loo!", or "farewell!"
When I was sick and had panic attacks going in field service, I asked one of the elders [in a confidential letter] if it could be arranged for me to go on Bible Studies with the Pioneer™ sisters until I got well again.
Next thing I know, a rumour is circulating about the congregation that "Sister Scully doesn't want to go in service anymore". The piece de resistance was when one of the Pioneer™ sisters came up to me and told me "Get your own damn Bible Studies".
My mistake for thinking that the elders were actually interested in helping me maintain my spirituality when I was sick.
