Does Genesis 1:26 support Devine Trinity???

by zagor 92 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • zagor
    zagor

    I've seen several comments about trinity, so here goes another one:

    Please read again Genesis 1:26

    This is very interesting paragraph and many times is being used as a proof of trinity as it says “Let us create ….”

    One interesting thing has been raised before about this paragraph already on this site (I apologies in advance if I stole someone’s idea, I can’t remember in what thread I’ve read about it)

    Anyhow, the paragraphs says “let us create a man in our image according to our likeness”

    Correct? This would logically imply that man was created in god’s image. Interesting thing about this paragraph is that it also indirectly implies that since man was created in god’s image and if god is divine trinity, man would also have to have a form of trinity in himself either psychological, physical or both.

    Any comments?

  • zagor
    zagor

    What, so no one has the balls to comment on this?
    Where are you believers?

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    Or (rather) polytheistic vestige?

    Cf., in the second story, 3:5,22: "you will be like gods, knowing (plural) good and evil" / "See, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil".

  • zagor
    zagor

    Cf., in the second story, 3:5,22: "you will be like gods, knowing (plural) good and evil" / "See, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil".

    But that still doens’t explains statement that man was created in god's image. When man was created he obviously (according to bible) didn't know what is good and what is evil (that came in later after he sinned). Such knowledge was not a part of his original makeup in any way. So when bible talks about man being created in god's image it must have something else in mind. And it simply states in "in god's image" or "likeness" which is descriptive of fundamental characteristics of god's own nature. Hence man would also have to have three persons as part of his being.

  • LittleToe
  • inquirer
    inquirer

    Gen 1:26 And God went on to say: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness..." I have been thinking lately (from a unitarian perspective) that Jehovah could have been "looking" and Jesus and some of the angels getting happy about the whole affair: "Yeah! What a wonderful idea! Don't you agree with me Jesus and Angel x,y and z (not necessarily all of them) 'Let us create man in our image! What a wonderful idea! I am sure when he is created you will understand why I have created this planet earth more.'"

    You see, it doesn't explain it from a "full picture" perspective! I could easily be cooking dinner and be in a happy mood and say "Let's make dinner," and the cat comes in and what's it's dinner too! But unless the author tells you whole picture, you would have just concluded that I was in the kitchen by myself!

    I disagree with "man" being put in 3 objectives in the mindset. I thought the idea of a trinity was was that they were co-equal, 3 bodies in one or something like that. I think by the fact that Adam was created in God's image (one body) proves the fact there is no trinity! Otherwise Adam would've had 3 heads! :D lol

    (Reminds me of a video game Moneky Island "Look behind you! A 3-headed monkey!")

  • inquirer
    inquirer

    another way of looking at it, is that God had an audience with him. A bit like if you go to a science fair (I don't live in America, just referring to the Simpsons) where you show off your science gadget. Or you are in school and you are talking to the audience about your favorite object and what tricks you do with it -- show and tell. And so with Genesis 1:26, he had an AUDIENCE.

    God (single being) was talking to say 3,000 (plural, seperate beings) about this amazing new trick he was going to do (an image of themselves), a human being.

  • skyman
    skyman

    All I can say is this that as a Ex: witnesses I am tainted. I think Jesus was with Jeohavh and so was the other angles so I don;t see anything here. But I have been brain washed so to answer you I would have to do major reaseach. Thak you very much for this thread.

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    This is almost certainly a reference to the divine council, also referred to as the "stars of El", "sons of Elyon", etc. Job 38:7 in fact describes the divine coucil ("the "morning stars" a.k.a "sons of God") as being present and shouting praise during the creation of the world. More on the divine council here:

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/67843/1.ashx

    The other interesting thing is how P's creation account in Genesis 1, and Genesis 1:26 in particular, is contradicted by Isaiah 40-45. It appears to respond point-by-point against the claims made in Genesis 1. Genesis 1:26 implicitly alludes to the divine council whom God consulted in the creation of man, but Isaiah 40:13-14 rejects the idea that God consulted with anyone during creation. Isaiah 44:24 similarly has Yahweh declaring: "I am Yahweh, who made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, when I spread out the earth, who was with me?" Another feature of Genesis 1:26 that Deutero-Isaiah disputes is the notion that God has a physical image and that anyone could be described as having the likeness (dmwt) of God:

    "To whom could you liken God? What image could you contrive of him" (Isaiah 40:18)
    "To whom can you compare me, equate me, to whom claim I am similar, or comparable?" (Isaiah 46:5)

    More on Deutero-Isaiah here:

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/73734/1.ashx

  • inquirer
    inquirer

    If you put "God" as the plural "Gods" (like in the ancient Hebrew) it obviously can't be a trinity because of English grammar!!!





    Proper English grammar translation: "And GOD went on to say: “Let us make man in our image..."

    You can't forsake English grammar! They use to teach this thing called grammar in Australia, and you realize how flaming important it is!

    It's like with John 1:1... Jesus and God can't be God -- it's either one or the other!!! Jesus is with WITH God (with the power of God's holy spirit.) If Jesus decided to be against God, he would't have been WITH God.

    Another point: If Jesus went along with Satan, there would only be 2/3's of a trinity!!!!!!!!

    Another thing: I can't be my dad and my dad my dad... I think God understands English grammar!

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