Thanks guys, so much great advice! Reading your replies and stories really helps to see things from a different perspective. Which is something that was impossible to do as a witness. Well I'm still a witness...but you know what I mean. ;)
I listened to Steve Jobs' graduation speech yesterday and it really lifted my spirits.
I see a lot of you guys are suggesting the slow route and I can see how that can be effective. But some of you have made your decision rather quickly. I think the end result is imminent though painful. And for me, I do not see the point of continuing the self-torture and giving those wonderful people anymore of my precious time - which I will never get back.
When I first read CoC I talked to my husband about my doubts. I started with (very tactfully) 'the GB is a false prophet hahahaha that was a bad move. Went on to talk about history of the society, society made rules, and alternative service. Although the conversation was very heart-to-heart he did not agree with anything I said. Rather he said it is the truth 110%. And the next day he started with the idea that I should have a shepherding call which went on for a few weeks and I kept saying that I did not want one.
Since then I do not say anything and neither does he. There is always an elephant in the room and I know he knows it. There's this unbearable tension between us. He's afraid to talk about it because he knows what will happen. And that's where we are for now.
I am supposed to get Releasing the Bonds in the mail today and I plan to ask him to read it with me.....I'll let you know what happens.
angel.face
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HOW DO YOU CONTINUE?
by angel.face inlately i've been finding it more and more difficult to keep up a front.. .
before i learned the tatt i was the mover and shaker of our family.
i would study with the kids.
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HOW DO YOU CONTINUE?
by angel.face inlately i've been finding it more and more difficult to keep up a front.. .
before i learned the tatt i was the mover and shaker of our family.
i would study with the kids.
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angel.face
Lately I've been finding it more and more difficult to keep up a front.
Before I learned the TATT I was the mover and shaker of our family. I would study with the kids. Make sure my daughter had everything prepared for the meetings (at least 3 comments of course). Enforce family worship eve. Comment at every meeting...blah blah blah
I've only been awake for 3 months but I am really struggling. I stopped commenting. I don't study with the kids anymore, rather we read classic children's literature together which is wonderful. I wish I read more 'worldly' books with them before. I rarely prepare for the meetings. My husband sees this and I guess he feels more pressure.
Just yesterday I was helping my daughter with her homework she was practicing for a spelling test. Then an hour before the meeting my husband calls her and interrogates her about being prepared for the meeting. she said that she has been doing her homework. He said ' that's not important! What's important is that you study your book for the meeting! you better do all of it or you will get in trouble!' and sends her off.
My daughter is only 7, she is mature and capable of doing it on her own. But holy crap! Punish the child if she does not prepare for the meeting? We never used to do that.
My daughter comes to me almost laughing says 'he just said that my homework is not important'. I am happy that she can see how unreasonable his comments were. But I feel so bad for her. I really want to give her a normal childhood. She is such a talented little girl and she would thrive in school sports or dance lessons. She has many friends at school and quite often she is invited to birthday parties, playdates etc.
I'm feeling a bit depressed at this point. What's the point of continuing this double life? I almost had a panic attack in service the other day. Every meeting there are dumb comments which make my blood boil. I don't think this is good for my health. I am so tempted to just hand in my DA letter and let this chapter of my life be over and focus on my kids and getting stuff together to go back to school.
My goal was to help my husband and my mother see things for what they really are. But I just don't think I can do it. And thinking about my kids, I really don't want them brought up in the whole JW thing. I know my husband will still take them to the meetings but I would do what I can to help them have a 'normal' life.
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What exactly are men at the back of the hall taking care of?
by howdidtihappen inonce people have come in, and the doorman and the mic men are in place, why are there a few other suits scattered about at the back?
i saw a guy get up, sit down, get up, sit down, get up and when i looked what he was up to he was reading the noticeboard and looking around, waiting for a bus.
i figured he wasn't doing much at that point, but anything to not stay seated.
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angel.face
Its amazing how zoned out the bros at the back are.
We had a CO visit a few weeks back. The CO was coughing quite a bit and was struggling through his talk. It took 3 brothers to get the retards' attention to get the CO a drink of water. He finally understood just as I was about to get up (a sister) to get the CO water. -
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A question regarding SEX ???
by Greybeard inwell, sorta about sex .
myself and two other male jw friends of mine have been fading from jw's in the last year plus or so.
all of our wives are devoted and active jw's.
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angel.face
I learned TTATT in the past few months. Initially I told my husband thinking that he would open his eyes. Boy, was I wrong! First, he was very insistent on a shepherding call saying that I am spiritually weak and I need help. I told him that I do not wish to have a shepherding call and since then have shut my mouth. I realize now that I will need to make a move soon to leave. I don't want to be DFed I would rather DA myself. I doubt that my husband will join me. I am trying to 'work' on him and my mother using Steven Hassan's methods.
I am sure you've been told before you got married 'make sure your mate loves Jehovah more then they love you'...I've heard that so many times!!! I think they say that because they know ppl learn TTATT and if your mate loves you more then they love the org. they may listen to you and open their eyes too. And that would not be good for their numbers.
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Russia introduces chemical castration for pedophiles
by angel.face inthe story is here : http://rt.com/news/pedophilia-russia-chemical-castration-059/.
the article claims that since 2005 pedophilia has grown twenty fold in russia alone.
under this new law males found guilty of sex crimes against children who are under the age of 14 will face chemical castration and repeat offenders will face a life sentence.
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angel.face
I wondered about that too. It looks like they are just going after the male pedophiles.
OK, maybe they are not JUST AS GUILTY (I was a bit angry when I posted) but they should somehow be brought to justice.
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Russia introduces chemical castration for pedophiles
by angel.face inthe story is here : http://rt.com/news/pedophilia-russia-chemical-castration-059/.
the article claims that since 2005 pedophilia has grown twenty fold in russia alone.
under this new law males found guilty of sex crimes against children who are under the age of 14 will face chemical castration and repeat offenders will face a life sentence.
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angel.face
The story is here : http://rt.com/news/pedophilia-russia-chemical-castration-059/
The article claims that since 2005 pedophilia has grown twenty fold in Russia alone. Under this new law males found guilty of sex crimes against children who are under the age of 14 will face chemical castration and repeat offenders will face a life sentence. Personally, I think people who are aware of pedophile activity and do not report it should face the same fate. Are they not just as guilty?
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If all of us are JW... Then...
by jakeyen inmany of us who lend money will not be paid.
victims of pedophiles will not receive justice.
criminals will not be jailed.
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There would be no doctors, engineers, scientists, architects...anyone with an education.
Education would not be available to children.
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No longer feel nervous or guilty when I see a JW out in public...
by QuestioningEverything ini used to feel nervous when i was out and would encounter a jw.
instantly, i would feel guilty that i wasn't doing more spiritually.
seems like the conversation would always go the the kh and jw's topic and the usual "we miss you, blah, blah, blah..." i am happy to say--- that is not the case anymore!
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angel.face
That's awesome! let them see how successful your family can be without them. Prove them wrong about the scary scary 'world'. No need to feel guilty, you are free - they are not.
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JW's and music
by Pink Floyd ini really resent the fact that the wt looked down upon alot of music.
rap was considered violent.
heavy metal was satanic.
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angel.face
I went to a JW dance party a few years ago. They put on Destiny child's "lose my breath" and one sister nearly had a break down and tuned it off.. 'this is club music' she said. LOL
At my wedding when the 'worldly' dj played 'YMCA' the elders nearly tackled him down to change the song. He was so confused and couldn't understand what was wrong with the ymca.I always loved blasting dancehall cause no one could understand the swearing.
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Is a child up for adoption supposed to promise love & respect to the potential father?
by discreetslave intuesday, october 4. offer your very selves to him: a living sacrifice, dedicated and fit for his acceptance.rom.
12:1, the new english bible.. before someone who is alienated from god can become a member of gods family of approved servants, he first needs to make a solemn promise to jehovah.
to understand why, imagine a respectable father who shows kind interest in an orphaned youth and wishes to adopt him as a member of his own family.
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angel.face
Still, before accepting the youth as his son, the man wants the boy to make a promise. So the man says, “Before I accept you as a son, I need you to promise that you wont tell anyone about hanky pankey. It would bring reproach upon my name."