well, i messaged someone on e-harmony and she messaged me back.
i did like her at first and she likes me too.
we exchanged more than 10 messages till i find out yesterday that her best friend is a tarot card reader.
Were you hoping to date them both and now you're worried that the tarot cards may get in the way of that? (J/k)
There are plenty of fish in the sea.but it may be a great opportunity to educate yourself about tarot card reading....and besides, didn't they cast lots in the bible? Or look for answers in the casting of stones?
Also, just putting it out there..us, ex JWs come with our own baggage.
something you're not likely to see in the "secret to family happiness" book.
the borg's guide to raising children:.
put the borgs needs, desires and agenda before the children every time, all the time.
I think the saddest part about growing up as a witness is having the idea drilled into your brain that you are not good enough or worthy unless you do XYZ...and then develops the inability to comprehend the notion of unconditional love...
http://74adamsstreet.com/.
all pictures archived at http://imgur.com/a/rdrkx .
sample:.
I'm sure it has already been discussed before, but what is this going for?
my parents are visiting for not-thanksgiving.
dad started bringing up spiritual stuff and i almost screwed up my fade.. it's so hard to have a genuine discussion about the issues in the organization when you have become an atheist.
it feels icky and disgusting to have to pretend and nod your head at such platitudes as "you just need to have faith"..."trust in jehovah"..."jehovah will correct it"..."remember ray franz?
I agree with Finkelstein. Fade slow..as neutrally as possible.
I totally understand your frustration. During my exit I became rather agnostic in my views and some of the JW stuff just became absurd to me. Once you see that the emperor wears no clothes it's difficult to pretend that he does. But considering long-term consequences...you may just want to nod and smile.
drop shunning or at least drop shunning among family members.
make blood transfusions a conscience matter, no more hlc.
drop the two witness rule, mandatory reporting of child abuse, no privileges for offenders.
This is interesting.
A few more for the list:
- acceptance of homosexuality
- stop policing the bedroom
- abolish the sexism
- break the JW circle (i.e. interfaith marriages and having close friends of all walks of life and backgrounds)
- voting should not be condoned - we pay taxes, after all
- preach LOVE not HATE. EMPOWER instead of ENSLAVE. This alone would change everything.
i joined this site about 4 years ago and life was very different to say the least.
i was a jw and started the process of 'waking up' after experiencing life threatening blood loss due to complications of a pregnancy.
i was married with two kids (husband was an ms) and was a stay-at-home mom.
i joined this site about 4 years ago and life was very different to say the least.
i was a jw and started the process of 'waking up' after experiencing life threatening blood loss due to complications of a pregnancy.
i was married with two kids (husband was an ms) and was a stay-at-home mom.
Hi there,
I joined this site about 4 years ago and life was very different to say the least.
I was a JW and started the process of 'waking up' after experiencing life threatening blood loss due to complications of a pregnancy. I was married with two kids (husband was an MS) and was a stay-at-home mom. We were a model witness family. Eventually I came out to my family as a non-believer and things got very difficult for me. My controlling ex-husband became abusive and it became apparent that I could no longer stay in the marriage. I found a job, started saving, little by little, and within 7 months I had enough money to leave my ex. I made all the arrangements to move out, when everything was set, I took my kids and left. Time went on and although I felt like I disassociated myself as the 'truth' no longer had any psychological hold on me, I did not feel it necessary to make the political statement of disassociating myself. The witch hunt to get rid of me was on. At the sitting of signing my separation agreement, my ex thought it was a good idea to bring two elders along. we signed the papers, and then the elders started 'talking to me'. I wasn't in the mood for debate, and frankly their 'logic' made no sense to me and I was in a rush to leave. They asked me how I feel about holidays and birthdays. I said to them that I can see that they are looking for a reason to get rid of me and I really didn't care. I told them that I plan on celebrating kwanza, hannukah, christmas, new years, the chinese new years, ramadan, halloween and every other holiday. I left that 'meeting' with my blood boiling. A few weeks letter, a letter came in the mail stating that a judicial committee will be held. I didn't go, I did not see a point. A week later these two lovely elders that were present at the signing of my separation agreement stopped by and told me that I was now disfellowshiped. This was about 2 years ago now....my story is long and I will share it on here one day when I am ready. I am happy to provide my perspective to anyone who may feel like they are trapped, I was after all, a stay-at-home-mom, dependent on my ex in every way.
Back to what I am curious about...just wanted to provide you with a snipit of my story before I open this up.
I have been wondering lately, can a baptism as a JW be annulled?
When I was a JW I have seen children as young as 6 get baptised...how can they possibly be making an informed decision?
In my case, I was not aware of the details with regards to shunning of DF individuals. I was under the impression that the shunning did not apply to family members. It wasn't until I was in my early 20s that I found out that this was the case and by this point I was a JW for 4 years.
In the legal world, if parties are not aware of what they are consenting to, the contract can be broken. There could be various arguments constructed here and I have been thinking about this for several days now. Does anyone know if it is possible to annul a baptism?
aug 1, 2012 public copy wt, pages 24-25 feature a make-belief boy named, caleb, who writes a letter to his sick friend.. i recall in the introduction of the video (that is being released at this year's convention) it is said that this vid is just a sampling of what they have been working on.. seeing this 'caleb' character in the magazine made me wonder if the wt is trying to produce a mascot for children of jws.
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Aug 1, 2012 Public copy WT, pages 24-25 feature a make-belief boy named, Caleb, who writes a letter to his sick friend.
I recall in the introduction of the video (that is being released at this year's convention) it is said that this vid is just a sampling of what they have been working on.
Seeing this 'Caleb' character in the magazine made me wonder if the WT is trying to produce a mascot for children of JWs.
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frosted flakes..... they're grrrrrreat!.
This image was recently featured in the heavenly edition of the watchtower. It is studied by all angels in heaven. The caption read: How to protect ourselves from the date rape drug. Apperently it is a big problem in heaven.
This image was also featured in the earthly study edition of the watchtower under the subheading: John - was he a crackhead?
i have been on this site daily, almost from its beginning, since i left the jws in 2001, but i have been more of a reader than a poster, as you can see from my post count.
i know few here know me, although i know many of you through reading your posts.
maybe it is not right to ask for support, when i generally stay quietly in the background of this forum, but i want only to speak a human misery of the deepest kind.
I am so deeply sorry for your loss.
