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Honeymoon Disfellowshippings
by dozy inone of the anomalies of the disfellowshipping process is the common situation when someone who is unscripturally divorced remarries.
in these occasions , the instruction is to always disfellowship the individual , regardless of repentance or attitude - what is referred to as a honeymoon df in elders jargon.
hence you have the (to me) bizarre situation of privately reproving a child molester , rapist or murderer one week and disfellowshipping a newly remarried middle aged sister who has been divorced for 20 years the next week.
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Blood - current JW thinking...
by dozy ina few observations from (indirectly) talking to a couple of hlc members who have recently attended meetings with his in brooklyn:.
(1) any hope that the wts will further reform the blood policy is wide of the mark.
the wts is very happy & settled with the current situation (whole blood + 4 components = nono everything else ok).
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KN Campaign - results
by dozy inthe uk feb km unusually contains the results of the kingdom news 37 & convention invitation campaigns (they don't normally make the information public).
convention invitation - 515 slips returned , "over 60%" requesting bible studies.. kn37 (to end of nov , so somewhat incomplete) - 311 slips returned , 185 studies requested.. the report is spun so that "you will be delighted to learn the results" and "jehovah has clearly blessed your hard work".
i can't help feeling that these results are very poor , though doubtless a devout jw would say that if only one study resulted , then that would be a fine result.
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Elder's notes - Blood item this week
by dozy inif anybody is interested , i've posted the outline for this talk in the following post:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/16/123261/2204761/post.ashx#2204761.
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Why the number of "anointed" will never decrease...
by dozy injw theology suggests that the work of gathering in the "144,000" has all but ended , particularly since 1935 , and that the number will inevitably diminish to nil.
indeed , some jws maintain that all the anointed will have died and resurrected before armageddon arrives.
the watchtower claims that the fact (?
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WTS account for Britain (2005)
by dozy inhopefully is available in adobe format by clicking on the link.. http://www.box.net/public/podqx6rrkb.
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Is it time for some new GB members?
by dozy init must be white smoke time shortly at brooklyn , following the death of 2 members in the last year.. by all accounts , there can only be 7 active members....... herd (71 years old) , jackson (51) , lett (57) , losch (63) , morris (56) , pierce (71) and splane (62).. the other 3 are all very aged.
barber (101) is confined to bed , jaracz is in his eighties and (allegedly) has heart trouble and a friend who met jack barr (now 93 years old) in the london bethel this year reckoned that this would be the last time he would be travelling over to the uk as he is very , very frail now.. with new, "grafted in" anointed ones very thin on the ground (and most regarded as certifiable by the r & f) , it is increasingly difficult for the gb to constantly appoint credible new members every few years.
for years now , the wts has increasingly been talking up the growing influence the non-anointed ones (nethinim , "chieftain class etc) are having in wts affairs - is it now the time for "new light"?
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The real impact of "apostate" sites
by dozy inin a recent discussion with a couple of district overseers and other heavies , the topic of the internet and apostate sites came up.
i asked what impact these were making , numerically , among jws.
the prevailing view was that , numerically , there was negligible impact.
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September KM - 70 alterations in Revelation Climax Book
by dozy ini can't find a thread on this subject yet - if there is one , please delete this one.. the september kingdom ministry has a 4 page insert detailing the 70 alterations in the revelation climax book which is due to be studied at the book study shortly.
i'll provide scans if anyone is interested.. i will leave it up to more experienced analysts to examine the reasons for specific changes , but just a few brief observations for now:.
p32 box - "they were completely exonerated" changed to "charges against them were dropped" - interesting change of terminology for the 1918 watchtower eight.
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Conservative v Liberal power struggle in JWs
by dozy infrom my reading of ray franz's books , it would seem that there was an underlying conflict in the late 70's , with some members of the gb and associated committees pursuing a more liberal , mainstream agenda.
for example , ray published his 1976 wt article defining "sacred service" as including "good works" such as looking after family members and charitable activities and ed dunlap published the excellent "commentary to the letter of james" (never quoted nowadays by the wts) stressing traditional christian qualities.
both were purged in the late 70's.. is it likely that a similar movement will gain ascendancy or do we assume that the present leadership will continue on the "high control" agenda?