Some Single Sisters' Problems with Brothers

by friday77 31 Replies latest jw friends

  • The Berean
    The Berean

    Hi:

    Please allow me to approach this from another angle.

    JWs men are little more than a cross section of the world we live in. If one browses the porn sites on the net (oops, did I give myself away?) it is quite easy to see the disrespect that women are assigned in general.

    Maybe the problem here is expectations. Perhaps you have been told it would be different when dealing with dedicated Brothers. Could it be that you have heard it said on the platform that women are the "weaker vessel" and should be treated kindly. Of course, I don't know. The important thing to me is that a "dog is a dog" no matter how he has been bred. Sorry you have been disappointed.

  • Scott77
    Scott77

    Hi friday77,

    Please, take action, move out as soon as possible before. Please, do not get yorked with those dubs. That would be a hell of your life.

    Scott77

  • verystupid77
    verystupid77

    Word of advice; RUN, don't walk away from this cult!!!!!! Amen get out now!!!!! How I wish I had. Please get out. Do not marry in I repeat do not marry in. Get out. I speak from expereace. There truly is a life for you out there. Life is so short. Jehovah gave us this gife use it to do good, not bring more in. I wish someone had told me that 25 years ago. vs77

  • I quit!
    I quit!

    The Watchtower does teach that women are inferior to men so that could be a big part of where their attitude toward woman is coming from These young men could also be influenced by the kind of music they listen to and the movies they watch. They could also be influenced by how they see their fathers and the other men at the KH treat women. Also most of the women at the KH buy right into this crap and play the role of the submissive wife going along with whatever they are told to do by their "head". I think no more kool aid expressed how I think a lot of women at the KH must feel.

    For your own sake please don't marry one of these guys or for that matter any man that views women like this or you are headed for a very disappointing future. Get out of that religion so you can have the freedom to grow as a person.

  • John Doe
    John Doe
    The penis rules that cult

    Why do people generalize masculinity with a penis? Do you not find your statement demeaning to the superior sex?

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    Friday77,

    Since you're new here, you may not be acquainted with one of the greatest injustices of the Mosaic Law. It is so bad, that the Insight "Bible Encyclopedia" just ignores the real truth of how single women were treated. Under the heading of "rape", it defines the word, but only explains what happens with an engaged girl:

    *** it-2 p. 753 Rape ***Under the Law, if an engaged girl committed fornication with another man, both she and the man were to be put to death. But if the girl screamed for help, this was taken as proof of her innocence. The man was put to death for his sin in which he forced her, and the girl was exonerated.—De 22:23-27.

    So, even at the risk of her life, the engaged girl is to scream. If he kills her, so what. At least everyone will know she was innocent. Notice they don't say what happens when a virgin, not engaged, gets raped. Here's what the OT says:

    (Deuteronomy 22:28-29) 28 "In case a man finds a girl, a virgin who has not been engaged, and he actually seizes her and lies down with her, and they have been found out, 29 the man who lay down with her must also give the girl’s father fifty silver shekels, and she will become his wife due to the fact that he humiliated her. He will not be allowed to divorce her all his days.

    Clearly then, the single girl could get raped by a slimeball, then her virginity AND LIFE are sold to HIM THE RAPIST for 50 shekels, and she is stuck as his wife/property/slave until one of them dies. Remember, although it says, "He will not be allowed to divorce her," women weren't allowed to initiate divorce under the Mosaic Low, ever.

    *** it-1 p. 640 Divorce ***Among the Israelites a man customarily paid a dowry for the woman who became his wife, and she was considered his possession. While enjoying many blessings and privileges, hers was the subordinate role in the marital union. Her position is further shown by Deuteronomy 24:1-4, which pointed out that the husband might divorce his wife but said nothing about the wife’s divorcing her husband. Being considered his property, she could not divorce him. In secular history, the first recorded instance of a woman in Israel trying to divorce her husband was when King Herod’s sister Salome sent her husband, the governor of Idumea, a bill of divorce dissolving their marriage. (JewishAntiquities, XV, 259 [vii, 10])

    Isn't that a loving provision from Hojovah?

    B the X

  • blondie
    blondie

    This one is a winner too:

    *** w61 12/15 pp. 767-768 Questions From Readers ***

    How can girls guard against temptation in this sex-crazy world?When a girl reaches the age of puberty or physical maturity, her body has developed in the matter of sex more than in the mind. Young folks like to be together, first in groups, later in twos. If they have not been instructed by their parents in regard to the matter of sex, a boy and a girl are likely to become too familiar and to engage in what is popularly called petting or necking. They may practice this for a time and see no bad results. However, the time will come when there will be great danger in such actions. Why? In answer to this question, we can learn about nature and sex from the bovine family of mammals, both wild and tame.

    Large herds of cattle, both male and female, wander over the plains feeding. Ordinarily the male or bull would not think of approaching the female or cow for sex purposes. If he did approach he would not receive a hearty welcome, but, rather, he might be gored by the cow’s horns. There is no petting or sex relations between bull and cow permitted, because the female is not in physical condition to breed. The bull seems to understand this and keeps in his own place. However, when the female of the species is in condition to breed, she makes the matter known. If there is no male in the herd, she will go elsewhere looking for one and she is unsettled until she finds one and then is bred by him. Now she is contented, and the end result is a calf. In this connection it is interesting to note that the male animal has no season at which he is not willing to engage in the breeding act.

    If we humans would take a lesson from these creatures, we would learn something of importance in matters of sex, as to its purpose and the results of its operation.

    As with a cow, when a young girl who has reached her puberty is in physical condition to conceive and become pregnant, her sex emotions are greatly aroused. If she has association with a boy, she is inclined to think that it is the sweetness of the "boy friend" that causes this delightful and new feeling, and so she becomes infatuated with him. If the boy friend should become sexually aroused and lets her know it and then she yields her body to the advances of the amorous boy friend, she is likely to become pregnant as a result of just one sex experience of this kind.

    Some persons foolishly think that they know when it is "safe" to have sex contact with those of the opposite sex and thus avoid becoming pregnant, but this is a serious mistake on their part. Even learned biologists do not know exactly when there is no danger of conception for a woman. This is due to certain irregularities in the case of various females.

    When the ovum, that is, the egg cell from which the baby starts, is at large or is on its way from the woman’s ovary through her Fallopian tube to the uterus, there it remains for an uncertain length of time, which varies greatly with different females. Then is the time when conception can take place if the ovum is met by a male life sperm. During that same time the female is sexually aroused and is ready for the sex act that at this time will cause a baby to result. This bearing of children is the sole privilege of the female. In fact, this is one main reason for creating the female of the human species.

    There are cases where a girl became pregnant as a result of one sex interview with a boy. What a price for a girl, a virgin, to pay for a few minutes of satisfied sex emotions! When persons start in this dangerous and sinful course, they find it hard to overcome future temptations. When a young, unmarried girl falls to the temptation, the price she pays is terrible: shame, sorrow, a ruined reputation, endless troubles, with the danger of being disfellowshiped from a congregation if the girl is a dedicated member. It is high time for girls to understand the make-up of their bodies and its functions, especially with regard to sex. Then if a girl understandingly takes care of herself while the ovum is at large and is causing sex disturbance and cravings within her, she will be able to act like a true lady of irreproachable morals at all times. She will avoid the violating of her virginity and the shame and conscience-stricken state due to this; and wisely she will direct her young life so as to end up in the position of a clean, happy wife and mother of legitimate children, journeying to the new world of righteousness, where there will be no sex problems amid a sex-crazy population.

  • loosie
    loosie
    Why do people generalize masculinity with a penis? Do you not find your statement demeaning to the superior sex?

    Well which sex are you reffering to as superior John? The fact is that in the org the males (all males have a penis) rule over the women. They tell them what to do what to say how to dress etc.

    Now my definition of a man is one who sees women as equal to men. Like the man I am married to. I don't hate men (at least the ones that fit the definition I just stated.) What I do hate or dislike extremely is the males ( not men) who think based on the fact of their extra body part makes them automatically better than me. Those types of males do not fall under the category of MEN.

  • John Doe
    John Doe
    What I do hate or dislike extremely is the males ( not men) who think based on the fact of their extra body part makes them automatically better than me.

    You really think anyone's perception of a difference in the sexes is based solely on the penis? I find this to be extremely narrow minded and insulting. You're essentially classifying men as women with a penis.

  • DaCheech
    DaCheech

    I like to know why you "spiritual" gals are always looking for the bethellites?

    been there, done that on the male side of the coin

Share this

Google+
Pinterest
Reddit