Its All About Them Until We Remember Our First Name

by AllTimeJeff 24 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • AllTimeJeff
    AllTimeJeff

    I have been told by more then one person of my propensity to use the phrase "...it's all about them." when it comes to the Governing Body. Them and their authority that is.

    It isn't any secret that the teachings of JW's revolve around this. Catch phrases like "Faithful and Discreet Slave", "Christs brothers", are all used as part of their lingo. There are others, but it all means the same thing, the Governing Body. And it bears a couple of thoughts on the matter...

    There seems to me to be an almost universal realization at some point with those who leave as to how important you really are to them. If you were kicked out via disfellowshipping, then you realized that even if you made a mistake, its not about your repentence, how bad you feel, or even your feelings about Jehovah. 3 men get to decide how sorry you are. 3 men follow guidelines from 9 other men in Brooklyn NY to determine if you fit their predetermined, non-inspired criteria. Besides your repentence, these elders also ty and consider the effect of keeping you in the congregation. The congregation's reputation is more important then you or any "help" they might be able to offer.

    So if you got kicked to the curb, misunderstood, wondering how the hell that god's true people can be that way, I guess you got a lot of answers, and just as many questions. But you learn one important fact; it was never about you.

    Of course, if you left of your own accord, you didn't need a meeting with the judicial committee, something else woke you up to the fact that you were somehow associating with a bunch of half dead, souless people, whose personalities are being plundered for the sake of the GB.

    Lets look at the facts.... Your spirituality is measured in numbers with them. You can be a complete asshole, treat people with self righteous disdain, and get more pats on the back and atta boys, because you sell yourself to them. They NEED you, but only with your brain turned off and your identity held in blind trust.Work hard, do what they say, and you can be the biggest prick who ever walked the earth.

    But be a nice, Christlike person who somehow asks questions? Who doesn't want someone telling them how to dress, eat, what to watch on TV, or even where to work and the hours that you do work? It doesn't matter if you are nice, or Christlike. Your individuality is a threat, and you are ostracized for this........

    No one becomes or stay's a JW for what they get out of it now. Oh sure, if you are one of the lucky elites, you get room and board in NYC and various branch offices around the world. If you like a lot of adulation and authority, you can try to be an elder or missionary. Expenses paid for a 6-7 day a week or more of work. It seems the least they can do.

    You got in it for the future, everlasting life thats advertised. (Hey, they got 1914 right... never mind) Forget now, and forget you in the here and now. There will be time for you after this world of 7 billion or more people is destryoed. Then you can have whatever you want. Then you can be whatever you want. Until then though, you can only be a publisher, pioneer, ministerial servant, elder, traveling overseer, bethelite or missionary. You are either active or inactive. A brother or sister. Hell, they can forget your name, but know you by your gender. "Hello brother! Hello Sister!"

    But you are never you.

    Ecclesiastes is still a book with some value for me, and there is a great scripture that always resonated with me personally, not for the reasons the GB ever postulated on it. Ecl 7:1 says "A GOOD name is better than precious ointment;" Of course, reputation is implied here, but whose reputation is it? Yours and mine.

    Generally in the west, we have two names or more given. Here are a couple of paragraphs from Wikipedia on the matter.

    A surname is a name added to a given name and is part of a personal name. In many cases a surname is a family name; the family-name meaning first appeared in 1375. [ 1 ] Many dictionaries define "surname" as a synonym of "family name". [ 2 ] It is also known as a "last name". In some cultures, the surname may be a patronymic or matronymic. Burmese and some Javanese do not use surnames.

    Although surnames are commonly used as last names, in some cultures, the surname comes first, followed by the given name or names; this is the case in Hungary, China and other countries in the Far East. Japanese names are always in this order, although the Japanese commonly will reverse the order of their names for the convenience of Westerners, just as Hungarians do when associating with other Europeans.

    Our names really do mean a lot. It implies our past, but also our future. Our last name or surname, represents all that we came from, our family, or origins, our roots. Sometimes, some of us try to change our last name, because we don't like our history and want to plot our new course. It is customary for woman who get married to take on the surname of their husband, although that tradition doesn't matter as much in the USA as it used to.

    But its our first name that makes us who we are. It's the name we respond to, its the name we are known best by to our friends and family. It isn't necesarry to say "I am John Smith" (with apologies to anyone here named John Smith) to the friends and family of John, is it?

    And therin lies the great and cunning scheme of what the GB does to you. Because it is all about them, they must marginalize you. I have had occasion to think to myself more then once while I was in the borg how no one has any first names anymore on becoming a JW. They take it away, and replace it with "Brother" and "Sister". Because you have know joined the "brotherhood" of the "great (and indistinguishable) crowd", you must give up your name. I know several JW's who hardly ever use the first name of anyone outside of their immediate family. It's either "brother" or "sister". There are bored CO's wives with nothing better to do but approach kids at the Kingdom Hall and remind them of how rude it is to use someone's first name. Because we are all "brothers" and "sisters".

    Over time, we forget our name too. We become our own version of Gollum from Lord of the Rings, who hadn't heard his real name, Smeagol for so long, he almost forgot it.

    When we lose our first name, we have lost ourselves. Because it's all about them, the GB can now harvest our time and energy, tricking us into thinking that we don't matter, but the brotherhood does. And hey, you are a brother aren't you? (sisterhood is implied here too, but of course, they don't refer to it as such, because women, oh, I'm sorry, sisters, are even less important then brothers)

    I am totally aware of the implication of calling someone brother or sister. I get called brother a lot at work by my employees. I get the "we are working closely together, doing the same thing" type of brother and sister. But JW's go way beyond that. It's not just common work that is at stake, it's you losing and giving over your identity to them.

    You see, you and I were never on a first name basis with the Governing Body, ever. And no one ever will be. Your first name, which is so important, is the first thing to go in JW land.

    If one leaves, they find that their first name is often a shell. That isn't a bad thing per se, it only means that it has been neglected, it is waiting to be discovered and filled up. For years it had been discarded with the insidious, robotic term "Brother" or "Sister". But no more. Now we have the chance to have our name actually mean something, to be something of our creation, not to be used and discarded by an insidious cult.

    That's why I get so concerned sometimes about exiting JW's, because it is so easy to see the pain caused by someone who not only had their first name neglected for so long, but often times do not even have a first name relationship with themselves when they look in the mirror. It shows. (and that can be one of the biggest helps to boards like this, to help us learn and discover who we are, what we want our first name to mean to others, but more importantly, to ourselves when we have to look into the mirror.)

    Our first name is what we want it to be, and should we choose to neglect our first name, then that is what we will be known for. We can be sad, mad, or determined to reclaim the meaning of our name. We can make our name something that represents a determination not to give up, and to do the best we can with the circumstances we have.

    If we want things to be as they should, if we want it to be about us, (which isn't bad, its healthy!) then we can not look at ourselves as a "Brother", "Sister", "ex-Brother" or "ex-Sister". When we can be _____________ then we have finally got the stench of the Governing Body handled. And for sure, to be on a first name basis with the person staring back at us in the mirror is a really cool thing to experience.

  • Mickey mouse
    Mickey mouse

    I think I'll make that the last thing I read today Jeff. Words worthy of pondering on before I go to sleep.

    Thanks.

  • Fatfreek
    Fatfreek

    Very thought provoking, Jeff. I agree with your hypothesis on what essentially has become the GB's denigration of individuals.

    We can also look at the other end of the spectrum, their obsession with the name Jehovah.

    How many times did Jesus use that proper name in his model prayer? Zero.

    YOU must pray, then, this way: 9'Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. 10 Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth. 11 Give us today our bread for this day; 12 and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. 13 And do not bring us into temptation, but deliver us from the wicked one.' NWTranlation

    While Jesus mentions "your name", he never used it with sickening repetition, as we've all heard elders, CO's, DO's, etc., in their public prayers.

    They address the creator of the universe with his name more times in a single prayer than they've ever done to their earthly dad even a single time in their entire lifetime. While I don't view that as a morally wrong act, I can't remember addressing my dad, "Wesley", once.

    When you explore Watchtower's history on nearly everything it addresses, its spin appears lopsided.

    Len Miller

  • BabaYaga
    BabaYaga
    AllTimeJeff said: ...its not about your repentence, how bad you feel, or even your feelings about Jehovah.3 men get to decide how sorry you are. 3 men follow guidelines from 9 other men in Brooklyn NY to determine if you fit their predetermined, non-inspired criteria. Besides your repentence, these elders also ty and consider the effect of keeping you in the congregation. The congregation's reputation is more important then you or any "help" they might be able to offer.

    So if you got kicked to the curb, misunderstood, wondering how the hell that god's true people can be that way, I guess you got a lot of answers, and just as many questions. But you learn one important fact; it was never about you.

    Incredible. Very interesting and well-phrased.

    I know many have found it almost impossible not to take disfellowshipping as a devastating personal rejection. These are fine things to remember, Jeff.

    and this:

    You see, you and I were never on a first name basis with the Governing Body, ever. And no one ever will be. Your first name, which is so important, is the first thing to go in JW land.

    I have never, EVER thought about it in those terms. You are so right... brother this and sister that... how odd. An interesting technique in the assimilation of the hive, no?

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa

    great post

    There seems to me to be an almost universal realization at some point with those who leave as to how important you really are to them. If you were kicked out via disfellowshipping, then you realized that even if you made a mistake, its not about your repentence, how bad you feel, or even your feelings about Jehovah. 3 men get to decide how sorry you are. 3 men follow guidelines from 9 other men in Brooklyn NY to determine if you fit their predetermined, non-inspired criteria. Besides your repentence, these elders also ty and consider the effect of keeping you in the congregation. The congregation's reputation is more important then you or any "help" they might be able to offer.

    So if you got kicked to the curb, misunderstood, wondering how the hell that god's true people can be that way, I guess you got a lot of answers, and just as many questions. But you learn one important fact; it was never about you.

    I was Disfellowshipped nine years and went back. It took many many of those years to realize that the three elders that disfellowshipped me were just men, they did not know if I was repentant, how I felt, or how I felt about my relationship with God. Too bad I did not figure out about the organization, that came later.

    Leslie

  • SnakesInTheTower
    SnakesInTheTower

    I wish I could share my first name here.... no, its not Snakes (or even Sankes)...... to the few here who know it, then it must mean you are my friend.

    It is interesting what you said Jeff. It neverwas about us, was it? Once, when I was secretary, I received the updated list of pioneers in the congregation from the Society. The married sisters were not listed by their first name...they were listed as Mrs. John Pioneer. Not Mrs. Sally Pioneer. Only the single pioneers kept their first name (Miss Sarah Single)... and note it was never Ms.

    We even had a DO (briefly) insist that married sisters be introduced on the assembly programs as "Sister John Pioneer"...and after that only as "Sister Pioneer." That did not last long... it was just too strange. But it reminded me how strange ("cultlike" did not enter my mind then) some things were.

    As to kids calling adults by their first name... I didnt much care for it myself.. my dad (not raised as a dub..converted in his 30s) was raised to call adults "Mr. Smith" not "John." That was how I was raised.

    I finally started relenting and letting kids at the KH call me "Brother {first name}" instead of "Brother {last name}. I still think kids (in and out of the Borg) are waaaaaay to casual (or disrespectful) in their interactions with adults. Even now, I am often the oldest student in college classes and I have difficulty referring to instructors by their first name, even when they are (as is often the case) are younger than I. I finally decided if the instructor refers to me by my first name, that is how I will refer to them...especially if they are younger than I.

    There was an older elder in our congo that everyone called "Uncle {first name}"...not ever "Brother {last name}." He was not my uncle. We were very close. (and very likely if he had been alive, I would not have left the Borg..he would have been the only one able to keep me in). I asked him about the whole "Uncle" thing once...he said.."you can call me by my first name...unless we are around some that might be offended by you doing that." I thought that was fair.

    Snakes ()

  • sass_my_frass
    sass_my_frass

    In my JC, when they sent me out of the room so they could 'deliberate', they told me to pray to Jehovah while they were, and if I was truly repentant, that would be what would get me off the hook. I hadn't prayed for quite a few years, and I was surprised by how stupid that sounded. Nevertheless, I gave it a go, and of course my heart obviously wasn't repentant enough. Nice one boys, you ignorant old nerds.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    After all, we are supposed to be God machines. Nothing matters but God--at that, what the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger self-servingly claims God wants. They don't need to identify which God machine is doing what--all they want is to have them numbered so they can make sure each machine is ready to work on request at all times.

  • yadda yadda 2
    yadda yadda 2

    They don't call it the Borg for nothing. You give up your identify for the collective unity (conformity) in order to preach the good news of the kingdom (selling magazines on Saturday morning). JW's are worker bees for the queen bee (GB).

  • ninja
    ninja

    well said ATJ.......there are similar thoughts in the book "jehovah lives in brooklyn" by richard shining thunder francis

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