StarTrekAngel

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  What are you gonna do when the existence of god is disproved?

  by Doltologist in

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  in 1897, j.j. thomson discovered the electron.

  this was the first constituent part of the atom which, for 2,000 years, was thought to be indivisible.

  today, we know of 18 elemental particles following the recent discovery of the higgs boson, the so-called god particle.. back in 1897, most people believed in god because there weren't even any theories as to how the universe came into being.

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  Let me put this thought out there. What if that day comes. We learned everything about the origin of the universe, enough to proof that the scientists were right on their theories. But what if, at the same time, included in such knowledge, we get information that makes us realize that what we just acquired is only, at the most conservative level, 0.00000001% of everything else besides that there is to know? Would God be dead then? Will religion be forgotten then?

  To think that answering the question of the origin of the universe is the end of our quest for knowledge, puts us pretty much in the same boat as the believers. Now I am not saying here that you are implying that we are 10 years away from answering every question humans have. If I understand correctly, you are saying that we would be at a point where it will be pretty hard to believe in a creator. But then, who lit the match at the big bang?

  There is always going to be another question that, while the answer isn't around, God will come as a placeholder.

  Or may be we are just one of many cycles of existence that have occurred and will continue to. Have you ever read "The last question" and "The last answer"?
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  Intelligent design my ass

  by Doltologist in

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  so man was made by god in his image was he?.

  so the human body was intelligently designed was it?.

  you are kidding me !!.

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  ok. I looked it up. LOL

  My point is that there is no solid argument for neither theory. If we are going to seat and argue about the "intelligence" or lack thereof that you can see in nature and the universe, then you have to consider every option.

  If there is no design... then you can tell, as you have pointed out, how many things are wrong with the universe.

  If there is design and if such was carried out by a super powerful all knowing God, then why do we think we can attempt to explain it? Every argument we bring forth can be dismissed, because we can assume that someone so smart can always top whatever we think is better.

  If we think it would have been better if our testicles were inside, someone says they need to be outside, but then why did God not come up with a reproductive aparatus that does not require cooling. Someone else may argue that not even that is intelligent enough. Why just not create a being that does not require a reproductive system and just give men the power to reproduce some other how that did not require testicles. Why give men a digestive system that requires to be cleansed and all that. Might as well have made a being made of energy that does not require eating or drinking or anything. Why would a God so smart bother in creating something that can be corrupted to begin with.

  I think nature speaks for itself and I think that this division between creationism and evolutionism is at the root of the discord. Simply because for the creationist, nature with its complexity and man's inability to explain it all, is the only recourse they have. This is the only way they can cause a division.

  As a race, we would be much more successful at trying to bridge the gap between creation and evolution than trying to prove/disprove either one individually.
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  Intelligent design my ass

  by Doltologist in

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  so man was made by god in his image was he?.

  so the human body was intelligently designed was it?.

  you are kidding me !!.

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  StarTrekAngel

  LMAO... I am not sure that I know what that means. English is my second language. But yet again that does not look like english
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  A Total Waste of Time "In The Field"

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  so i am walking down the street in a spanish neighborhood and two men, obviously jw's, are standing between houses writing furiously on their tiny slips.

  i am nearly a block away approaching and they just kept writing the whole time i walked up.

  i finally arrive to pass them and they are still both writing.

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  StarTrekAngel

  I am in an area where 98% of people are hispanic and over 60% speak spanish at home. South Texas, near Brownsville. Here we were instructed, starting about a year ago, to make sure (as per the CO) that no territory would be turned back in without a not-at-home that has not been catch at home at some point. Gives the pioneers lots to do. Otherwise, the area each cong has is too small for any one pioneer to work on. They have put a lot of weight on that mandate. Every house needs to be visited before turning it in. The territory map and the notes are turned in at the end of the month so that the elders can make a report but you can have it right back to continue working it.

  Ironically, we also have been instructed to refrain from entering properties with a "keep-out" sign or even if the gate to the property is open. Some time ago, a couple of sister went into a large house with an automatic gate. Even when the saw the owner had just left, the message is so urgent, that they had to go in, hoping someone would be left at home. In between walking and and knocking, the gate closed by itself, locking the sisters inside the yard. You can imagine the mood of the owner when he was somehow located and asked to return and free the children of God.

  So last time i went in service, 6 months ago, it was like walking the streets for relaxation. We just walked by hoping to find someone cutting the grass. Otherwise, most houses has closed gates and fences. We had no other recourse but to grab a rock and bang it against the hurricane fences, in the hopes that we would caught someones attention.
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  Intelligent design my ass

  by Doltologist in

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  so man was made by god in his image was he?.

  so the human body was intelligently designed was it?.

  you are kidding me !!.

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  StarTrekAngel

  Sorry... I forgot to include... ALIENS!!!
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  Intelligent design my ass

  by Doltologist in

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  so man was made by god in his image was he?.

  so the human body was intelligently designed was it?.

  you are kidding me !!.

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  StarTrekAngel

  I rather not play football but tongue ball. I'll provide the balls. :)

  Call it whatever you want evolution/creation has put things in the right place or is getting them there slowly. Man was not meant to poop seating down. He was meant to poop squatting, which effectively puts everything in the right place so it doesn't get dirty. It also aids the movement of you know what and has been shown to be more sanitary. Our environment today is what we made it to be. We changed it way faster than evolution/adaptation can keep up with. Bacteria and viruses in the other hand have no agenda, no politics, no economy, no human-rights no rush to get no where. That is where they get us in trouble. We can try killing them as much as we want to. There will always be more and better of them. Even if it takes them a million years.

  If there is a God, he gave us freedom the develop our life any way we want it. Therefore he is not at fault. Men made God to look bad in their intention to dominate others. Wether these "men" believed in the God they preached is of little relevance. He was just a tool to control people then as much as it is now.

  If there is no God, the above still applies.
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  What would happen if you drop a fake check or bill in the donation box?

  by StarTrekAngel in

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  what would happen if we started dropping fake check or bills inside the donation box of an assembly?

  i know, is a crime, but so is pushing someone to not accept blood and die.

  would it help skew the numbers enough if enough of us did it?.

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  ok... I'll stick to the ice cream coupon

  Dreaming does not cost a penny...
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  Our hall is asking for money...

  by thedepressedsoul in

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  i guess the branch isn't happy with the amount being sent each month since we are way lower than our loan amount.

  we now have to another financial survey to see the max amount that can be given.

  it is "encouraged" for all to be in attendance and give much forethought and consideration to the amount you can donate each month.

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  StarTrekAngel

  i would drop a coupon for an ice cream. Thinking on doing that in the next assembly
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  What would happen if you drop a fake check or bill in the donation box?

  by StarTrekAngel in

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  what would happen if we started dropping fake check or bills inside the donation box of an assembly?

  i know, is a crime, but so is pushing someone to not accept blood and die.

  would it help skew the numbers enough if enough of us did it?.

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  StarTrekAngel

  Just dreaming here, but would it not cause the crowd to stop donating real money if somehow the numbers showed that the assembly was covered?
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  What would happen if you drop a fake check or bill in the donation box?

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what would happen if we started dropping fake check or bills inside the donation box of an assembly?

  i know, is a crime, but so is pushing someone to not accept blood and die.

  would it help skew the numbers enough if enough of us did it?.

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  StarTrekAngel

  I was really thinking about a prank for the next assembly. I was going to drop a coupon for an ice cream from DQ or something.