Posts by StarTrekAngel

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8 million - The Population of Honduras

by bemused in

i sometimes look at the magazines on jw.org to see what the wt are saying now.

the latest watchtower is a good old fire and brimstone, armageddon is coming any moment now issue, but it was a short article in the april 2015 awake that caught my eye.

it features the country of honduras and is quite an informative little read (though failing to mention the very high crime rate in that country).

StarTrekAngel

Approach a JW and tell him his religion is tiny. He will direct you to Mathew 7:14

Go to a meeting or assembly and you will be showed how this "unparalleled growth" is fulfilling the words of Isaiah 60:22

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I quit the Theocratic Ministry School

by My Name is of No Consequence in

after almost 24 years in the school and doing it since i was nine years old, i officially resigned.

it has become increasingly difficult to prepare talks, especially with the new format for brothers.

i did not mind doing them; i actually put the time and effort into getting them out.

StarTrekAngel

Out of curiosity... how did you do it and what was the reaction from the elders when you informed them?

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This weeks meeting remarks

by StarTrekAngel in

just come here to vent a bit.

last night we had one of those meeting where i had a hard time keeping my eyes from rolling.

i tell you, sometimes i think they have a mind of their own, my eyes that is.

StarTrekAngel

Thanks! Sorry, I forgot to quote the book source

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CO has been coming to my door. Would like 1 or 2 solid and easy arguments.

by The Laser Viking in

i am 6th generation.

i have been out for a few years.. back story on the situation:.

i had a co come by while going door-to-door in the neighborhood.

StarTrekAngel

So what is exactly your end goal? Why don't you want to come thru as "too apostate". Do you want to continue engaging this guy ?

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CO has been coming to my door. Would like 1 or 2 solid and easy arguments.

by The Laser Viking in

i am 6th generation.

i have been out for a few years.. back story on the situation:.

i had a co come by while going door-to-door in the neighborhood.

If I remember correctly (not for sure since it has been a while), GB member Jackson comes out in that video saying that JW do not claim to be inspired by holy spirit. Can't remember which one of the two videos it is. Have you watch them?

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Are we pro-shunning or against it?

by Simon in

just to continue my theme about religious freedom and how we approach criticizing the wts, i've also been thinking about 'shunning'.. i think shunning is the most unifying complaint that most ex-members of religious groups that practice it have in common.

it is the layer that runs under every other complaint - whatever the reason for leaving it seems "... and i was shunned" can be added to it as the final rap on the charge sheet.. of course it seems like a no-brainer to many of us and we hardly ever stop to really think about it - shunning is bad, the watchtower believes in shunning therefore the watchtower is bad.

they need to stop it.

StarTrekAngel

For most of the modern history, religion has been mostly based on "not judging". I mean religion itself, not individuals. Individuals tend to judge no matter what they believe on or not believe at all. Point being is that, for the most part, anyone, even a criminal, is thought to have a right to spirituality and the right to enter a church and have the ultimate freedom of confessing the worst atrocities, just as if he was talking in confidentiality with God. The priest being the representative of God.

Speaking exclusively about shunning (and not on wether the priest should be obligated to report the confessed crime), one should be given the right to shun a family member whom you consider a danger to your family. I won't be surprised to find out some of us do that. I have a member on my family who killed his lover while having his own wife and kids. We definitely don't want anything with that guy. But we do so out of our own conscience, and God would ultimately judge wether we acted properly or not. There is huge giant gap between that, and the fact that a religion will use its power to convince you to shun someone you don't know all that well, just because he disagreed with said religion. If they want to allow a pedophile to enter the church because he is "repentant", then by all means proceed. But let authorities handle the matter and so that the members become aware. We will then individually choose to shun him or not and wether we do so forever or just until he or she earns our trust again.

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You will never grow old in this current system of things... - Awake, May 22, 1969 p. 15

by cappytan in

check this out.

got this bound volume from my dad.. .

StarTrekAngel

Are there any available on ebay or other sites?

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WT now promoting literature officially at book fairs

by StarTrekAngel in

can there really be any doubt now on how commercial it is?

if you thought the new kh design seemed commercial in nature, now imagine one of those halls turned into a jw store.

we know they exist.

StarTrekAngel

Can you provide any links? I would love to check them out

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This weeks meeting remarks

by StarTrekAngel in

just come here to vent a bit.

last night we had one of those meeting where i had a hard time keeping my eyes from rolling.

i tell you, sometimes i think they have a mind of their own, my eyes that is.

StarTrekAngel

My favorite of all was this one

Because of pride, men often refuse to adapt to changing needs and circumstances. Such rigidity has bankrupted corporations and even toppled governments

Aren't they suffering financially from their pride and refusal to change their policies? Most hypocritical statement of 2015 in my view.

@ sowhatnow.. unfortunately I have to be there, for there is no better way to defeat them than to know exactly what they are made of. I still have family I need to watch after.

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This weeks meeting remarks

by StarTrekAngel in

just come here to vent a bit.

last night we had one of those meeting where i had a hard time keeping my eyes from rolling.

i tell you, sometimes i think they have a mind of their own, my eyes that is.

StarTrekAngel

Just come here to vent a bit. Last night we had one of those meeting where I had a hard time keeping my eyes from rolling. I tell you, sometimes I think they have a mind of their own, my eyes that is. Specially because the wife says everyone can notice my attitude (Don't know how to tell her that no one is really paying attention to the meeting, much less to me)

The first thing that almost made me scream in rage was during the weekly book study.

14 There is a remarkable Bible passage that helps us begin to grasp Jehovah’s adaptability. The prophet Ezekiel was given a vision of Jehovah’s heavenly organization of spirit creatures. He saw a chariot of awe-inspiring proportions, Jehovah’s own “vehicle” always under His control. Most interesting was the way that it moved. The giant wheels were four-sided and full of eyes so that they could see everywhere and could change direction instantly, without stopping or turning. And this gigantic chariot did not have to lumber along like an unwieldy, man-made vehicle. It could move at the speed of lightning, even making right-angled turns! (Ezekiel 1:1, 14-28) Yes, Jehovah’s organization, like the almighty Sovereign in control of it, is supremely adaptable, responsive to the ever-changing situations and needs it must address. 15 Humans can only try to imitate such perfect adaptability. All too often, though, humans and their organizations are more rigid than adaptable, more unreasonable 14, 15. Ezekiel’s vision of Jehovah’s celestial chariot teaches us what about Jehovah’s heavenly organization, and how does it differ from worldly organizations? 204 than yielding. To illustrate: A supertanker or a freight train might be awesome in terms of size and power. But can either one respond to sudden changes in circumstance? If an obstacle falls across the tracks in front of a freight train, turning is out of the question. Sudden stops are not much easier. A heavy freight train may take over a mile to stop after the brakes are applied! Similarly, a supertanker may coast onward for five miles after the engines are shut off. Even if the engines are thrown into reverse, the tanker may still plow on for two miles! It is similar with human organizations that are prone to rigidity and unreasonableness. Because of pride, men often refuse to adapt to changing needs and circumstances. Such rigidity has bankrupted corporations and even toppled governments. (Proverbs 16:18) How happy we can be that neither Jehovah nor his organization is anything like that!

The second one came later, during a question and answer session. The session was solely focused on preparing for field service and how prayer can help us get ready. This was accompanied along with a demonstration on how a brother is getting ready to go to field service. He made sure he had every track and magazine possible as well as pre loading a video on his phone. This sister, one of the anointed, kind of side stepped on the subject. She went on to comment on how well this brother was preparing, making sure he had the publications and then prayer. She mentioned how she really needs to pray hard in order to get the will to read the bible. Said the little scripture references on the side are really annoying.