DwainBowman

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  Reports of lower memorial attendance

  by thedepressedsoul in

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  i have heard a lot of reports from kingdom halls in the area that there was less than last year, for both time slots.. we had the first time slot and we were down 50+/- compared to last year.

  last year we had the lobby full of people standing and this year we had empty seats and no one standing.

  we ran out of parking last year and this year we made it.. like i said i am hearing quite a few reports of this from halls in our area.however, somehow the number seem to inch up every year.

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  DwainBowman

  Just think how much money the sheeple spend on the invite work, for what, 2 or 3 people, to show up! Hell it's just the sheeples money, they don't need it!
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  How many members left the Watchtower because of all the Hatred and Anti-christian behavior? Were you exposed to betrayal, lies and slander against your family?

  by PokerPlayerPhil in

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  i am trying to wrap my head around 2014 and all the evil we experienced while the elders and overseer said "wait on jehovah because that's what all the true believers do!

  " and i explained it's too painful to see the wicked people who brought my family suffering giving talks and providing other witness families with instruction we are to use when the end comes.

  why are the quite members those who get treated like trash while members who call down evil upon the organization get everything they want so they will keep their mouths shut?.

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  Tried and convicted, without being told, I was in a JC meeting, dfed for over a year. Years later I was informed of what I was accused of. When I said no I wasn't told, they then said they both informed me, and that I confessed! All lies, if they had informed me, one quick phone call would have cleared up everything! It still took months to get everything sort of fixed. With the understanding, that I could not say a word about it to anyone!

  Talk about eye opening!
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  Why only 7 or 8 members on the Governing Body?

  by Gilgamesh in

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  now and then someone hears a rumor that the gb might go with 12 members instead of the 8 (or now 7) they currently have.

  the value of 12 is understandable, which might even drive the rumors every time they plan to add another 4 or 5 new persons to the gb helpers list.

  of course, a rumor that steals their thunder may also promote a delay, even if true.. i'm sure this quote from the watchtower was previously commented upon as a good explanation for the watch tower's best reason to leave the number at 7 or 8:.

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  It takes 2/3 to vote for something for it to pass. So I can just see them pushing there favorite's and not being able to get many things done!
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  Ecclesiasticus

  by berrygerry in

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  2. bible

  thought this quote (ecclesiasticus 37:14) from another thread deserved it's own.. finally, stick to the advice your own heart gives you,.

  no one can be truer to you than that;.

  since a person's soul often gives a clearer warning.

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  Ecclesiastics

  1. Sirach

     Book
  2. The Book of the All-Virtuous Wisdom of Joshua ben Sira, commonly called the Wisdom of Sirach or simply Sirach, and also known as the Book of Ecclesiasticus or Ben Sira, is a work of ethical teachings ... Wikipedia
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  Ecclesiasticus

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  thought this quote (ecclesiasticus 37:14) from another thread deserved it's own.. finally, stick to the advice your own heart gives you,.

  no one can be truer to you than that;.

  since a person's soul often gives a clearer warning.

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  Are you sure that's 37:14 ?
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  Active posters: What education have you had, what degrees do you possess?

  by EndofMysteries in

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  2. friends

  from so many posts and conversations on here, you'd think over 1/2 the posters here possess doctorates in theology, physics, biology, etc.

  i'm curious aside from the books and research people have done here, what degrees they have.

  to start, i just got an aa and going straight through full time to an mba.

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  DwainBowman

  I had a friend, that's been dead for a number of years now. He quit school in the 6th. His family lived a short walk to one of the big Collage's in LA. He spent every minute he could studying in the collage library. At 19 he went to work at JPL. In a short time they knew he was a really smart man. His understanding of math & science were over the top! In no time he was set up with his own lab and staff. Hi tech fuels that were used in the Apollo missions were his, along with the shuttle fuels. He received Phd's from MIT, U Alabama, UCLA, without ever taking a class. He moved to All in the mid 70's, and worked for NASA, at the Red Stone Arsenal. He was just unbelievably smart!

  Education, is more than going to a higher school, and a sheep skin! I know people with 4 to 8 year degree's, that work the counters at McDonald's, because they do not have what it takes, to use what they learned!

  Everyone has natural abilities both in learning and understanding! I worked with mechanical engineer's for a few years, one a Mr Bill Fortman, had only a high school education, yet he had a natural mechanical understanding, the others could never match. No amount of education can teach what he had!

  I am nobody, under pressure from the elders, I quit school in the 9th, to pionner. Right after that my dad order me back to school, or get out. I was hardly 15. I left. Pioneered, worked, and lived in a boarding house until I was 18. I got a real job. One day they started giving everyone assessment test. Then based on the results gave more specialized test. Mine was Mechanical. In a test that was to take an hour, I finished it in 25 minutes. I scored 99%. Well I was accused of cheating, for no one had ever taken this test in less than 50 minutes, and I was told no one had ever scored over 97%. Well they gave me a much newer test, with three people watching. It too was an hour test. I finished it in 46 minutes! And scored 99%! The next week I was sent to Chicago for training, under Bill Fortman. Major pay increase, and a great job. Sadly over time the elders got to me, for all though I made moist meetings, and fs, it wasn't good enough, I bought into the lie's about 75, and quit the best job I ever had. I would be retired now, and in much better shape!

  I wasted my real gift for nothing, broken, used up and crushed. In pretty bad shape physically, and i see no real way forward!
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  I'm confused about the Memorial? Great crowd?

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this was my first memorial thinking outside of the box.

  last year i was starting to have questions but this is the first year i noticed a lot of bs.

  can anyone clarify a few things for me?.

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  DwainBowman

  It's all to get the crowd, a since of awa and extra respect for those that do!

  A long time friend of mine started pertaking back in 70. I was just 12 at the time.but some years later I ask him how he knew, and he told me a lot of stuff, seemed to make sense. Well he stopped a few years ago!
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  Does anyone else find reinstated dubs can be the most hypocritical?

  by William Penwell in

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  i have seen this over the years that some that get df'd and later reinstated can be the most hypocritical.

  one case comes to find about my nephew who was df'd about 10 years ago for cupping a little feel of some dub sisters boobs.

  well right away he turns to us non dubs for moral support as he is being ostracized by the dub relatives.

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  So of the most self righteous jw's I ever knew, had been dfed one or more times. One of the very worst had been sleeping with three married sister for years, was dfed 10 years. He is loard self righteous, Pomp's wind bag #1!
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  Watchtower: You Made us Apostates!!

  by kairos in

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  if you are willing to pay attention to the org's history and do any kind of unbiased personal research, it's impossible to miss ttatt.. watchtower's publication archive provides all the information anyone would ever need.where are all of the "half truths and outright lies" actually coming from?

  ( old light ).

  why, oh why, back in 1989 when i first got hooked did i not do any research into the watchtower corporation?.

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  DwainBowman

  Sad thing on my part, I had everything the WT printed going back to the 1870, and read almost all of it. but like a good little sheeple, I accepted the light gets brighter story, HOOK LINE & SINKER!!!! I gave that whole collection away back in 1999, as I was packing up and moving away. I so wish i still had it all.

  Looking back on just the things I remember I have to ask, WHY oh WHY did that not sound alarm bells!!!!!!!! I guess we got blinded by the light!!!!
  
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  JW.org Email Service - Now I've Seen EVERYTHING!!!

  by jw07 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  maybe i'm late but i just discovered that elders now have an email service run on the jw.org domain name.. those emails might contain a treasure trove of very sensitive material regarding rape, molestation, pedophilia cases etc.. the cult keeps getting creepier and creepier.

  why would they do that in this day and age, lots of damning stuff in one place?.

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  DwainBowman

  The real stuff is sent by word of mouth, and as has been shared before, hand written in the elder books, or sometimes just heard not to be repeated!