What's this about non JW's having JW funerals???!!!! That is horrible guys! I am so sorry. I've never heard of anything like that & I was in & around JW's for 13 years.
That is just wrong!
my grandma died yesterday.
i love her very much and miss her terribly.
she joined the jw's late in life after years of my mom coaxing her to join.
What's this about non JW's having JW funerals???!!!! That is horrible guys! I am so sorry. I've never heard of anything like that & I was in & around JW's for 13 years.
That is just wrong!
my grandma died yesterday.
i love her very much and miss her terribly.
she joined the jw's late in life after years of my mom coaxing her to join.
"playing the friendly native guide"
I needed a laugh that is too true! As for getting any conversation with my uncles & cousins every time I attempt to let them know whats going on regarding my mom & jw relatives snide assides at me in JW code and why they aren't talking to me around the other JW's my mom appears and stops the conversation. I also don't want to bring this up while they are grieving. As for my brother he has a highly explosive temper which I'm not going to help him light in any way. He's still in somewhat good standing with the JW's despite his green dreadlocks and forthright hate of their beliefs because they think he's mentally ill.(He's not just a free thinker)
Again thanks for being there-
Margy
i've read a lot of threads of late, where people stated when they did something wrong they would go the elders the next day and confess.. i find this truly bizzare !!!.
okay, maybe i didn't have a conscience as a jw, i did alot of things wrong, but, that would be the f--kin' day i would go to the elders and confess anything.
i would never tell those old goots anything, because then they would have something to hang over you for a long time.
I'm with you Run Don't Walk. Never ever ever would I go to the Elders about anything let alone rat myself out! I was ratted out a few times by jw finks but always skated out of any trouble.
my grandma died yesterday.
i love her very much and miss her terribly.
she joined the jw's late in life after years of my mom coaxing her to join.
Thank you Asleif--&--PuttyTat I feel stronger already. Thank you for your kindness.
Gary- Thank you for your story & advice. As for the watchtower not doing funerals anymore I don't know. The funeral is this monday at a kingdom hall with an elder giving the memorial service. It might explain why we're burying her first before the service though. We've (the ex & non JW's) all been kind of confused about that.
-Margy
i will never forget a talk at the assembly where the speaker had a 6 year old child on stage,.
and the experience went something like this.. while at school, the child said something to another schoolmate to the effect of ............................. "i cannot associate with you, because bad association spoil useful habits.".
"and if you don't serve jehovah, you will be destroyed at armageddon.".
I remember a talk about Guns & Roses at an assembly in northern minnesota in the 80's or early 90's. It was specifically about the song that went "Used to love her but had to kill her" and youth being exposed to violent song lyrics. I was never really a fan but according to the other JW kids the song was about a dog. Me & a couple of friends laughed all the way through the talk.
i will never forget a talk at the assembly where the speaker had a 6 year old child on stage,.
and the experience went something like this.. while at school, the child said something to another schoolmate to the effect of ............................. "i cannot associate with you, because bad association spoil useful habits.".
"and if you don't serve jehovah, you will be destroyed at armageddon.".
The very best talk I remember was an elder in our congregation who was a self described former druggie. I am not sure what was exactly his problem but during a Friday night theocratic talk one night he stared off into space for about 5 minutes straight, mouth open, not speaking. No one really knew what to do so he just stood there looking at something we couldn't see until he eventually snapped back to reality. He later explained that he thought he'd had an acid flashback while giving the talk. No one knew how to take his explanation of what happened so it was just kind of let go although the sisters talked about it behind his back for some time.
glad to say my internet connection is still up, my parents phoned to disconnect it on monday but its still going.. i havent officially dad yet but it will happen within the next few weeks.
i will also be sending the da letter to all my immediate family.
as soon as they announce my da my parents will be chucking me out but are helping me get sorted for my flat.
Good for you Be Wise and good luck!
The feeling of being free is the best and it only gets better. Just don't go too crazy with the new freedom.
-Margy
my grandma died yesterday.
i love her very much and miss her terribly.
she joined the jw's late in life after years of my mom coaxing her to join.
My grandma died yesterday. I love her very much and miss her terribly. She joined the JW's late in life after years of my mom coaxing her to join. My grandma was one of the few JW's who still loved me and would not disown me and, although she was sad because she thought I was going to be killed at armageddon, she never was preachy. She was a truly kind loving person and very non-judgemental. Definitely not the norm for the religion she chose to join. Now she is gone and I have to go to the kingdom hall for the first time in years for her memorial. Last time was for my grandpa's funeral and my mother asked me to leave before the wake so I wouldn't make the brothers and sisters uncomfortable. I did leave because I didn't want Grandma to be hurt by how they were going to treat me she had enough to deal with in losing her husband. I know mom is going to ask me to do the same now and I will not leave this time. I don't know how I'm going to make it through without blowing up at an elder or the first person who says they're going to meet again in the new system while staring at me. Their comfort in their faith I see as a good thing, their trying to make me feel sad because I don't share their faith is what gets to me. I want to be there for my 2 remaining "worldly" uncles and my non believing cousins and brother. I've already had to "translate" for the "worldlies" as they wanted to have the service on a Sunday morning and my mom blew up when an uncle asked if they could just suspend the watchtower meeting for 1 day. Anyway before this post gets any longer, does anyone out there have any words of advice for dealing with JW relatives in a time like this? Any personal experiences?
-Margy
when you post here, do you feel that you that you can make a positive difference in someone's life?
or is this place just a spot to hang with your friends?
Just the fact that this board is here and so many people are helping each other through some difficult stuff I think makes a difference. I know I have a much different perspective on all things JW after coming here and reading all you guy's posts. Thank you!
A more educated/less bitter/still angry - Smurfette
i am a christian man interested in a jw woman, but i, myself, am not jw.
i have read on some sites that the jw faith does not allow christians to date outside their faith.
well, christianity is christianity.
ChristianGuy-
If she wants to date you she will. When I met my husband his beliefs were not an issue to me at all only to my JW family. If the issue is only between you & her family I'd say there's hope. However if your beliefs are an issue to her you have a problem.
Good Luck !