i downloaded the clam thing a couple weeks ago.
now got this message, not the first time either.
can't they even keep doctrine straight for 2 months?
Yes I'm with steve2.
I religiously read the abc news on line here in Oz. Often I see 'updated 10 minutes ago' when I check the article, that I read six hours ago, I note one sentence relating to the police incident with regard to timing has been updated.
jtg.
Its the new Internet age thingy. And yes, their doctrines are a revolving door thingy too.
this seems to be making the rounds on jw phone and text messages.. latest newshomenewspoliticsentertainmentlifestylesportshome moscow reports russia president signs executive order to release all jailed jehovah’s witnesses; ban...russia president signs executive order to release all jailed jehovah’s witnesses; ban on religious group liftedby newsonline sharevladimir putinthe president of russia, vladimir putin, has signed an executive order, ordering the release of all imprisoned jehovah’s witnesses in the country, local media reports.the order cancels more than 100 criminal cases that were been opened against jehovah’s witnesses, and releases 24 people in prison who were awaiting or on trial, and a similar number under house arrest.
the group’s publications that were on a list of banned literature in russia have also had the ban lifted.putin said on a state television that upon sober reflection and broader consultation involving religious leaders in russia, human rights activists and members of the judiciary, he’s convinced that judges who sat on these trials erred and might have ruled based on their personal convictions against jehovah’s witnesses.he went ahead to assure russians that the religious activities of the group would continue to be monitored despite clearing them fit to go ahead with their activities a ban on jehovah’s witnesses came into full force in russia after a court dismissed an appeal against the group’s classification as an “extremist” organisation.the british and american governments were among those raising human rights concerns over the prohibition, which liquidated the group’s administrative centre near st petersburg and 395 local religious organisations.russia’s supreme court upheld the ruling, having previously decided in favour of the justice ministry’s characterisation of the jehovah’s witnesses as an “extremist organisation” whose members “pose a threat to the rights of the citizens, public order and public security”.judges ordered the closure of the group’s russian headquarters, local chapters and the seizure of its property by the state.putin’s executive power, allowed by the russian constitution, will see all the court rulings against the group reversed, including the release of liquidated assets.. i will try to post the link.
jtg is it bullshit??.
skin,
jw talk a jw chat site has called it out as fake.
google jwtalk and you will see the posts
jtg
this seems to be making the rounds on jw phone and text messages.. latest newshomenewspoliticsentertainmentlifestylesportshome moscow reports russia president signs executive order to release all jailed jehovah’s witnesses; ban...russia president signs executive order to release all jailed jehovah’s witnesses; ban on religious group liftedby newsonline sharevladimir putinthe president of russia, vladimir putin, has signed an executive order, ordering the release of all imprisoned jehovah’s witnesses in the country, local media reports.the order cancels more than 100 criminal cases that were been opened against jehovah’s witnesses, and releases 24 people in prison who were awaiting or on trial, and a similar number under house arrest.
the group’s publications that were on a list of banned literature in russia have also had the ban lifted.putin said on a state television that upon sober reflection and broader consultation involving religious leaders in russia, human rights activists and members of the judiciary, he’s convinced that judges who sat on these trials erred and might have ruled based on their personal convictions against jehovah’s witnesses.he went ahead to assure russians that the religious activities of the group would continue to be monitored despite clearing them fit to go ahead with their activities a ban on jehovah’s witnesses came into full force in russia after a court dismissed an appeal against the group’s classification as an “extremist” organisation.the british and american governments were among those raising human rights concerns over the prohibition, which liquidated the group’s administrative centre near st petersburg and 395 local religious organisations.russia’s supreme court upheld the ruling, having previously decided in favour of the justice ministry’s characterisation of the jehovah’s witnesses as an “extremist organisation” whose members “pose a threat to the rights of the citizens, public order and public security”.judges ordered the closure of the group’s russian headquarters, local chapters and the seizure of its property by the state.putin’s executive power, allowed by the russian constitution, will see all the court rulings against the group reversed, including the release of liquidated assets.. i will try to post the link.
jtg is it bullshit??.
Edit to add,,,, after searching, it seems to be a fake news site that relies on hits to get paid.
A couple of pimi sent it to me to check it out,,,, Fucking Hilarious.
jtg
this seems to be making the rounds on jw phone and text messages.. latest newshomenewspoliticsentertainmentlifestylesportshome moscow reports russia president signs executive order to release all jailed jehovah’s witnesses; ban...russia president signs executive order to release all jailed jehovah’s witnesses; ban on religious group liftedby newsonline sharevladimir putinthe president of russia, vladimir putin, has signed an executive order, ordering the release of all imprisoned jehovah’s witnesses in the country, local media reports.the order cancels more than 100 criminal cases that were been opened against jehovah’s witnesses, and releases 24 people in prison who were awaiting or on trial, and a similar number under house arrest.
the group’s publications that were on a list of banned literature in russia have also had the ban lifted.putin said on a state television that upon sober reflection and broader consultation involving religious leaders in russia, human rights activists and members of the judiciary, he’s convinced that judges who sat on these trials erred and might have ruled based on their personal convictions against jehovah’s witnesses.he went ahead to assure russians that the religious activities of the group would continue to be monitored despite clearing them fit to go ahead with their activities a ban on jehovah’s witnesses came into full force in russia after a court dismissed an appeal against the group’s classification as an “extremist” organisation.the british and american governments were among those raising human rights concerns over the prohibition, which liquidated the group’s administrative centre near st petersburg and 395 local religious organisations.russia’s supreme court upheld the ruling, having previously decided in favour of the justice ministry’s characterisation of the jehovah’s witnesses as an “extremist organisation” whose members “pose a threat to the rights of the citizens, public order and public security”.judges ordered the closure of the group’s russian headquarters, local chapters and the seizure of its property by the state.putin’s executive power, allowed by the russian constitution, will see all the court rulings against the group reversed, including the release of liquidated assets.. i will try to post the link.
jtg is it bullshit??.
Hi All.
This seems to be making the rounds on jw phone and text messages.
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The President of Russia, Vladimir Putin, has signed an executive order, ordering the release of all imprisoned Jehovah’s Witnesses in the country, local media reports.
The order cancels more than 100 criminal cases that were been opened against Jehovah’s Witnesses, and releases 24 people in prison who were awaiting or on trial, and a similar number under house arrest. The group’s Publications that were on a list of banned literature in Russia have also had the ban lifted.
Putin said on a state television that upon sober reflection and broader consultation involving religious leaders in Russia, human rights activists and members of the judiciary, he’s convinced that Judges who sat on these trials erred and might have ruled based on their personal convictions against Jehovah’s Witnesses.
He went ahead to assure Russians that the religious activities of the group would continue to be monitored despite clearing them fit to go ahead with their activities
A ban on Jehovah’s Witnesses came into full force in Russia after a court dismissed an appeal against the group’s classification as an “extremist” organisation.
The British and American governments were among those raising human rights concerns over the prohibition, which liquidated the group’s administrative centre near St Petersburg and 395 local religious organisations.
Russia’s Supreme Court upheld the ruling, having previously decided in favour of the justice ministry’s characterisation of the Jehovah’s Witnesses as an “extremist organisation” whose members “pose a threat to the rights of the citizens, public order and public security”.
Judges ordered the closure of the group’s Russian headquarters, local chapters and the seizure of its property by the state.
Putin’s executive power, allowed by the Russian constitution, will see all the court rulings against the group reversed, including the release of liquidated assets.
I will try to post the link
jtg is it bullshit??
https://www.facebook.com/rafael.riveraarias.3/videos/2271651422931947/.
@ smiddy3
These 6,000 are the approved delegates from overseas. You know, 'missionaries and full time servants'.
That is,,,, the elite.
Yes, they will be transported by charter bus to melton for which ever matinee or evening show they are assigned to.
On the day, local congs will be expected to take them out in field circus, feed them and 'entertain them' till the charter bus turns up to take them to melton.
At this stage, to my knowledge, no local jws apart from performers and ushers are invited to the concerts.
The total attendance including the 'elite' at Marvel stadium will be app 50 to 60 thousand.
There will be no seating on the playing field as last time.
And, yes, not all of Australian jws are invited to this 'international' convention.
Oh,,,,, a request has been put out for local publishers in Melbourne to offer lodgings to those 'special servants' from overseas that cannot afford suggested commercial lodging arrangements........ FARCICAL in my view.
jtg
https://www.facebook.com/rafael.riveraarias.3/videos/2271651422931947/.
Well, Fwiw.
Melbourne Australia are putting on Matinee and Evening 'shows' of some sorts for the app. 6,000 International delegates at the Melton Assembly Hall in November.
Auditions were held up to some time ago.
Volunteers have also been interviewed recently to help as ushers etc apart from performers.
jtg
https://m.facebook.com/100002613343180/posts/2271710659592690?sfns=mo.
would the old-timers even recognise this religion anymore?.
this is from one of the international conventions held this year.
Ha ha,
they have revamped an old song from the previous (old light) song book.
jtg.
P.S. would have got disfellowshipped and shunned for that in the late seventies, (after armagedon).
hi all.. just spotted this on abc news australia.. pope francis orders bishops to report sex abuse, allows direct complaints to vaticanposted about an hour ago pope francis with his arm out blessing the crowd in white.photo: pope francis's own credibility has been shaken by the church's sex abuse scandal.
(ap: kamran jebreili)related story: 'sitting on a volcano': letter reveals principal knew about sex abuse allegations in 1970srelated story: 'we're going to kill you': church abuse survivors speak out about intimidationrelated story: 'catastrophically irresponsible': ex-pope criticised for blaming abuse scandals on 1960s erapope francis introduced sweeping changes in catholic church law on thursday local time to hold bishops accountable for sexual abuse or covering it up, making reporting obligatory for clerics and allowing anyone to complain directly to the vatican if needed.key points:the new rules cover the abuse of adults, as well as children, by clergythe changes allow retroactive reporting and sets time limits on investigationsthose who report abuse can no longer be ordered to stay silent under new rulesthe papal decree, which covers abuse of both children and adults, also obliges every catholic diocese in the world to set up simple and accessible reporting systems and encourages local churches to involve lay experts in investigations.the decree is the second such papal provision since a summit on abuse by senior church bishops at the vatican in february and comes after the church was rocked in march by news of the conviction on charges of sex abuse of australian cardinal george pell, the highest-ranked vatican official to be convicted.
george pell leaves the melbourne magistrates court in 2017.photo: george pell's conviction is, in many ways, unchartered territory for the vatican.
Pope Francis orders bishops to report sex abuse, allows direct complaints to Vatican - ABC News (Aus
hi all.. just spotted this on abc news australia.. pope francis orders bishops to report sex abuse, allows direct complaints to vaticanposted about an hour ago pope francis with his arm out blessing the crowd in white.photo: pope francis's own credibility has been shaken by the church's sex abuse scandal.
(ap: kamran jebreili)related story: 'sitting on a volcano': letter reveals principal knew about sex abuse allegations in 1970srelated story: 'we're going to kill you': church abuse survivors speak out about intimidationrelated story: 'catastrophically irresponsible': ex-pope criticised for blaming abuse scandals on 1960s erapope francis introduced sweeping changes in catholic church law on thursday local time to hold bishops accountable for sexual abuse or covering it up, making reporting obligatory for clerics and allowing anyone to complain directly to the vatican if needed.key points:the new rules cover the abuse of adults, as well as children, by clergythe changes allow retroactive reporting and sets time limits on investigationsthose who report abuse can no longer be ordered to stay silent under new rulesthe papal decree, which covers abuse of both children and adults, also obliges every catholic diocese in the world to set up simple and accessible reporting systems and encourages local churches to involve lay experts in investigations.the decree is the second such papal provision since a summit on abuse by senior church bishops at the vatican in february and comes after the church was rocked in march by news of the conviction on charges of sex abuse of australian cardinal george pell, the highest-ranked vatican official to be convicted.
george pell leaves the melbourne magistrates court in 2017.photo: george pell's conviction is, in many ways, unchartered territory for the vatican.
Hi All.
Just spotted this on ABC news Australia.
Pope Francis orders bishops to report sex abuse, allows direct complaints to Vatican
Posted about an hour ago
Pope Francis with his arm out blessing the crowd in white.
PHOTO: Pope Francis's own credibility has been shaken by the Church's sex abuse scandal. (AP: Kamran Jebreili)
RELATED STORY: 'Sitting on a volcano': Letter reveals principal knew about sex abuse allegations in 1970sRELATED STORY: 'We're going to kill you': Church abuse survivors speak out about intimidationRELATED STORY: 'Catastrophically irresponsible': Ex-Pope criticised for blaming abuse scandals on 1960s era
Pope Francis introduced sweeping changes in Catholic Church law on Thursday local time to hold bishops accountable for sexual abuse or covering it up, making reporting obligatory for clerics and allowing anyone to complain directly to the Vatican if needed.
Key points:
The new rules cover the abuse of adults, as well as children, by clergy
The changes allow retroactive reporting and sets time limits on investigations
Those who report abuse can no longer be ordered to stay silent under new rules
The papal decree, which covers abuse of both children and adults, also obliges every Catholic diocese in the world to set up simple and accessible reporting systems and encourages local churches to involve lay experts in investigations.
The decree is the second such papal provision since a summit on abuse by senior Church bishops at the Vatican in February and comes after the Church was rocked in March by news of the conviction on charges of sex abuse of Australian cardinal George Pell, the highest-ranked Vatican official to be convicted.
George Pell leaves the Melbourne Magistrates Court in 2017.
PHOTO: George Pell's conviction is, in many ways, unchartered territory for the Vatican. (Reuters: Mark Dadswell)
It's the latest effort by Pope Francis to respond to the global eruption of the sex abuse and cover-up scandal that has devastated the credibility of the Catholic hierarchy and his own papacy.
And it provides a new legal framework for US bishops to use as they prepare to adopt accountability measures next month to respond to the scandal there.
"We have said for years that priests must conform to certain strict rules, so why shouldn't bishops and others in the hierarchy do the same?" said Cardinal Marc Ouellet, head of the Vatican office for bishops. "It's not just a law, but a profound responsibility."
It sets time limits for local investigations and the Vatican's response to them and allows for retroactive reporting.
It also says bishops with conflicts of interest should recuse themselves from investigations and that they can also be held accountable for abuse of power in sexual relations with adults.
Bishops attending the Vatican's conference dealing with sex abuse by priests
PHOTO: Bishops attend the second day of a Vatican conference on dealing with sex abuse by priests earlier this year. (AP: Giuseppe Lami)
The 19-article decree, called "Vos Estis Lux Mundi" (You Are the Light of the World), raises to 18 from 16 the age of adulthood in cases of sexual abuse. It also covers possession of child pornography.
The decree says local Church officials cannot order those who report abuse to remain silent and that senior bishops should make provisions to prevent documents from being destroyed by subordinates if needed.
Clerics should follow local law on whether they are obliged to report alleged sexual abuse to civil authorities.
ABC/wires
jtg
snippets of two talks by co at ca and during his visit to a congregation in ohio.
fear mongering at it's best.
has anyone else heard their co say the same nonsense?.
YES, A co here in Melbourne Australia keeps banging on about an older 'sister' who says "it's so close I can smell it" Mmmmmm
jtg
one of my wall clocks,broken, tells the correct minute of time once in 24 hours every day. Yippeeee.
