Posts by jonahstourguide

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Transfer of Russian properties to NY

by lastmanstanding in

i read somewhere that prior to putin’s move, the governing blabber was in the process of transferring ownership of the russian branch to ny.. anyone got info on this?.

jonahstourguide

Russian court upholds handover of Jehovah’s Witnesses' property to state

World May 03, 2018, 17:28 UTC+3
The compound on the coast of the Gulf of Finland consists of plots of land, homes and buildings more than $13.9 million worth
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ST. PETERSBURG, May 3. /TASS/. The St. Petersburg city court has upheld the decision to confiscate from the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania in New York the compound in the community of Solnechnoye on the Gulf of Finland and convert it to state property, the St. Petersburg courts’ press service said on Thursday.
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Earlier, a court of lower instance found that officially the Administrative Center of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia in 2000 donated the real estate compound on the coast of the Gulf of Finland to the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, registered on US territory. However, according to the courts’ press-service, the Administrative Center continued to use the facilities as before, which was a reason enough to declare the transaction fictitious and void. The property was taken over by the state.
The compound consists of sixteen items - plots of land, homes and buildings more than 880 million rubles ($13.9 million) worth.
Earlier, TASS reported that the defendants had disagreed with the lower instance court’s ruling and filed an appeal at the St. Petersburg city court. In particular, they argued that substantive law had been violated and anti-extremist law sanctions were used against them without a reason.
Russia’s Supreme Court had declared Jehovah’s Witnesses an extremist organization and outlawed its activity in Russia.

More:
http://tass.com/world/1002773

there ya go woohoo I did it!!!!!!!

jtg

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Transfer of Russian properties to NY

by lastmanstanding in

i read somewhere that prior to putin’s move, the governing blabber was in the process of transferring ownership of the russian branch to ny.. anyone got info on this?.

jonahstourguide

Just google 'russia seizes property' on this site

I cant do the link thing.

jtg

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Transfer of Russian properties to NY

by lastmanstanding in

i read somewhere that prior to putin’s move, the governing blabber was in the process of transferring ownership of the russian branch to ny.. anyone got info on this?.

jonahstourguide

Yes lastmanstanding.

There is some info somewhere that I cannot locate at the moment.

My recollection is that the reason the russians seized the property was that transfers had taken place to attempt to protect the same from seizure.

I thought that was determined from the reading of court proceedings.

jtg

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How many hours of field service are now required?

by new boy in

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friends

to be a publisher?.

an auxiliary pioneer?.

an regular pioneer?.

jonahstourguide

Here in Oz there is a "provision" for auxiliary pioneers to do 30 hrs for "special campaigns" and circuit overseers visits. In addition to what blondie outlined.

Oh and for regular pioneers the annual total should be 840 so some months can be less and others need to be more. However, If they are elder related and they miss their annual target they are still held in good esteem.

jtg

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This week's weak bible reading, discussion of 1 Cor. 14. 34 - 37

by waton in

like to hear how the locals, the mike handlers, wt conductor handle this text, identifying the jezebel commenting as "disgraceful", violating the "lords commandment".

are they squirming?

they should!.

jonahstourguide

Mate,

most congs will miss it coz dere ain't no mid week meeting on the week of da memorial booze up.

Good point however.

jtg

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The JW funeral sales pitch . . .

by BereanThinker7 in

so recently i attended a jw funeral.

i've been awake and faded for a bit now and so i already have realized the strangeness that is a jw funeral/memorial talk because its basically just a sales pitch to those attending that are non jws using a twist on the christian resurrection hope and barely speaks about the departed.

here's the thing that i noticed the that got me wondering, the pitch, at least at this talk, is given under the guise that it is what the fallen person wanted to be spoken at the funeral and as such its all about the "secondary" "great crowds" class hope.. so my question is had anybody ever attended the funeral talk for someone who claimed to be in the 144,000???.

jonahstourguide

Hi Berean Thinker. You are correct in your reasoning.

I have, here in Melbourne Australia about 5 years ago.

Yes, It started out typically reviewing his life briefly and went on to mention that he most likely was smilingly looking down upon us and feeling sad to be parting from his earthly friends remembering the happy times we shared.

(my family knew the guy personally, Nikki Trofimchuk.)

After describing his projected task alongside Jesus, the speaker went on to say how happy he will be to observe the current jw's faithful efforts in declaring Jesus' kingship.

And then the line. 'Now that Nikki has taken his place in heaven with the faithful early christian anointed, what does that mean for us?' And how will the resurrection hope affect him?

And then the usual funeral talk commenced inserting 'our' hope instead of the recently departed anointed one's.

And often mentioning how happy he will be to be an active part of the resurrection as he sees loved friends come back to life on earth.

fwiw.

jtg

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Australian ABC News article on JW incest victim

by shepherdless in

i am surprised nobody else has posted this yet.

a lot of people in aust will read this.. “incest victim turned lawyer speaks out on reporting violence and sexual abuse”.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-08/incest-victim-to-honours-law-graduate-shelly-triumph-over-abuse/10978530.

jonahstourguide

This was the guy about whom Australian branch member Doug Jackson wrote, while he was a c.o. "When the dust settles, he will be a benefit to the congregation" or words to that effect when the guy moved to another cong.

jtg,

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Do Any Of You Dream About JW Friends You had ?

by smiddy3 in

jw
friends

what prompted this topic was a dream i had last night where i was engaged in a conversation i had with an old friend where i was trying to prove where the jw`s were wrong from their own bible.. and this is not the first time i have had such dreams.. often times i have had dreams about people i have known in the religion .. remember i have been away from the religion for more than 26 years now and in a totally different part of the country .. i now wonder if any of them ever dream about my wife and i ?

but that`s something i`ll never know.. do any of you have any such experiences ?.

maybe i`m spending too much time on this site lol.

jonahstourguide

Hey smiddy

1969 Melbourne Showgrounds yes im in Melb. Aussie as.

Hey who is da dude trying to prove the trinity???? On another thread.

He needs to get out of conspiracy logic and into the real world haha

jtg

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Do Any Of You Dream About JW Friends You had ?

by smiddy3 in

jw
friends

what prompted this topic was a dream i had last night where i was engaged in a conversation i had with an old friend where i was trying to prove where the jw`s were wrong from their own bible.. and this is not the first time i have had such dreams.. often times i have had dreams about people i have known in the religion .. remember i have been away from the religion for more than 26 years now and in a totally different part of the country .. i now wonder if any of them ever dream about my wife and i ?

but that`s something i`ll never know.. do any of you have any such experiences ?.

maybe i`m spending too much time on this site lol.

jonahstourguide

Having played a musical instrument, I have, over the years had dreams related to either playing or not playing in the orchestra's of the day. (I was involved in the 1969 showgrounds orchestra)

And of not being selected for a special 'spiritual occasion' or wedding of prominent jws.

Ha ha,,,,, I've played in bands since then for many years and loved not doin jw stuff !! but the dreams persisted at times.

Phunny how the brain works while we sleep.

jtg

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Who is The Lord?

by JW Answers in

the jehovah's witnesses believe that only the father is lord god, however by searching the scriptures we can identify that there are more than one person in the godhead, and the lord jesus as well as the holy spirit are lord.. for those who are interested in learning, feel free to watch this new video..

jonahstourguide

"If you cannot explain something simply, you simply don't understand the topic well enough yourself".

Just my two bobs worth. Apparently a well respected smart guy said something like that.

I've watched this topic with great interest and there are more questions than answers regarding the trinity concept.

That in itself speaks volumes with respect to bible eisegesis and seriously questions the same.

As a layman, I wouldn't mind reading a succinct scriptural answer. Or, has our time in religion fused our neurons !?

jtg