all australian watchtower and awakes are already being printed in japan as well as a heap of other items
jtg
it appears the the commonwealth government is bringing in a national compensation scheme for victims of institutional child sexual abuse with individuals able to claim up to $150,000 each.
it's clear that the australian government will not be able to fund this program without serious money from the offending churches.
so it's bad news for the organization today.. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-04/government-announces-redress-for-abuse-victims/7996092.
all australian watchtower and awakes are already being printed in japan as well as a heap of other items
jtg
just received this update.
http://us7.campaign-archive1.com/?u=8e90fa1e64ebb08847cc04916&id=fcec86ae2b&e=0670c7af59.
The Melbourne Herald Sun has a 1/4 page notice on page 18 today Nov 4.
It is Verbatim to the O.P..
I believe cognitive dissonance is operative in the congs here. The silence is deafening.
jtg
who was the president of the first century christian congregation after jesus death , , the secretary ,the treasurer ,the field overseer ,the district overseer ,who were the lawyers protecting the congregations from secular authorities ,the mogul`s of real estate , buying up land and getting christians to build places of worship with free labor and then selling them off for a profit a few years down the track , with nothing going back to those who laboured on those projects .. where are the records on papyrus , that the 1st century witnesses counted their hours ,made return visits ,bible studies ,oops the bible wasnt even formulated then ,that didn`t occur until apostate christendom in the 3rd century came up with a number of books to be inspired ..
Yep you are on to it Smiddy,,,, and so say all of us.
jtg
recent broadcast have gerrit losch talking about not holding a grudge and in septembers broadcast david splain talking about not demanding an apology after being wronged.
the subject of forgiveness and revenge is one of many examples of moral contradictions in the bible.
the book 1984 mentioned the terms double think and double speak.
VIOLIN....
jtg
since leaving the jws i have looked into many beliefs and have come to this conclusion.. paganism has a high regard for women, as they worship goddesses and respect the female for the ability to give birth to new life.
christianity puts females in second place to males and blames women for male temptations which goes back to eve eating the fruit and tempting adam with it.
they also created a devil with the appearance of the pagan god pan and built churches on pagan worship sites so that people would still go there to worship, but within a christian building.. i have come to the conclusion that paganism versus christianity is about a battle of the sexes.. the fear of demonic forces is taught by religions to deter you from straying.
Well, Disassociated Lady 2.
Brilliantly put. I am a single white male of the species and am still in the org and am coming to exactly the same conclusions. It suffices to say that your penultimate sentence sums up my research perfectly.
Thank you for the succinct summary.
also, over many years I have met beautiful people from all walks of life but sadly, so many religious folk were and still are so judgemental and self righteous.
jtg
P.S. This, by the way, this is my second time around with the org and religion in general and I needed to do it to investigate if there is 'truth'. My conclusion also leads me to identify that the bible is the best violin ever produced, beats Stradivarius hands down.
jehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.
there is another mode for how he exists.
now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.
AND, THANK YOU ISLAND MAN.
jtg
Thank you Lines people. Thank you Ball people. Game Set Match.
hi everyone to cut a long story short, ive been away from the meetings for over 10 years.
i recently reconnected with the congregation and started a study.
cant get my head around all the changes and jw broadcasting.
My two bobs worth colin..... Don't Try Don't Bother. Been there done that and now working on cleansing my brain from the trauma and the associated implanted (with my erroneous permission) delusional thought processes.
jtg
just sitting through this week's wt study and just spent 5 minutes listening to multiple answers where people are convinced that jehovah made humans from clay, literally forming adam like a sculpture then breathing life into him.. it's embarrassing to think i basically thought the same....
Oh, and any how, the Chinese dynasty vase didn't sell for $70 million.
The bidder reneged on the purchase and it was eventually sold two years later for about half of that.
I googled ming dynasty vase sells for 70 million dollars. interesting story actually.
jtg
...is an epic triumph is emotional manipulation.
bringing together all of the stories they told thus far and placing them int he "new world" complete with the little boy who was killed in a car accident coming back from the dead.. i have a good friend who is stuck in with family and plays the role.
he said everyone was crying, and the people next to him rated the videos by how many tissues they needed to dry their eyes.
Need to bump this thread due to the find by Orphan Crow regarding the source of the music used in the last video for all Australian lurkers/searchers as I. Regionals are currently taking place her in Oz. Man, what a find. And I'm tellin all I can and am getting the good old cognitive dissonance,,,,,,,,, "oh one of them must be a brother" b.s. Finger down the throat time for me. (insert vomit emoticon)
jtg
i have been out for 23 years , so i`m not up to date with current practices.. however i was "in" for 33 years and belonged to 7 congregations in two states of australia in that time 1960-1993 , and not once could i say the general public ever attended a public talk.. in our witnessing back then we would distribute invitations to a public talk on a bible subject given before the wt study.every week.. some of the congregations i attended had between 80 to 100 active publishers , and most would give at least 10 hours service pw.,so that means hundreds of invitations would go out , week after week , for the public to attend talks, and nobody and i mean nobody shows up , year in and year out.. sure , now and again maybe ,one or two bible studies would have attended , but that does not constitute the public attending .. what are your thoughts on this ?
was it the same in congregations you attended ?
smiddy.
Yep sir 82,,,,,, dats melbourne cup day,,,,,,off to da races jtg