the royal commission is not yet over.
the summary of findings on jws is not the end of the story.
the legal process is unfolding and the only open question is the extent to which jw organization in australia will be legally mandated to change its policies and procedures on child sexual abuse.. (on the question of shunning those who leave, the commission is well intended but has strayed beyond its legal brief.
I think that Steven Unthank created an awareness that 'something is not right about those JWS', and the ARC came in with perfect timing. It's my understanding as well, that Australian folk are outspoken and would not try to cover this type of thing up - religion doesn't have the stranglehold on governments 'down-under', or in any of the Commonwealth nations, that it has in the USA.
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the royal commission is not yet over.
the summary of findings on jws is not the end of the story.
the legal process is unfolding and the only open question is the extent to which jw organization in australia will be legally mandated to change its policies and procedures on child sexual abuse.. (on the question of shunning those who leave, the commission is well intended but has strayed beyond its legal brief.
TGND
When reading the Submission, I felt the Commission found it deeply disturbing that the victim was forced to testify in the presence of her (or his) rapist, and three other men! with NO support permitted. All people are disgusted by this - and the ones I have told over the years, were outraged. It's chilling, truly chilling.
Thanks for posting some highlights.
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so my best friend, who also happens to be my brother-in-law, was reinstated last night.
i had an idea he was trying to make his way back to the cult since i had been texting and calling him for about 2, 3 months now and no response.
i wasn't shocked when he text me this morning to tell me the news.
I understand. Some days, it's just so hard to deal with. xx
i'm non-jw.. been following this forum.
most of you folks have been through hell, but are still loving souls.
i'm reeeally impressed and glad to be here.. my question is at the end of this.
What I really meant is that they (JWS) have a different type of spirituality - they virtually have none. They are more like drones, than passionate adherents.
It's hard to put into words. But I would agree that you are 'smitten', and nothing wrong with that. Eyes wide open, and watch out for the love bombing; ie, don't let it fool you.
All the best,
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half of our congregation goes there to work out because of the good pool facilities and prices, and the other half think that it's wrong due to it's old charter.
but no one is enforcing the wrong or right of it.
i'd be interested in knowing how this is being applied worldwide.
Oh, the horror! :P
half of our congregation goes there to work out because of the good pool facilities and prices, and the other half think that it's wrong due to it's old charter.
but no one is enforcing the wrong or right of it.
i'd be interested in knowing how this is being applied worldwide.
just get the day pass once a year to take my girls to "halloween horror night" at a local amusement park. Bus ride, dinner and drinks. That shouldn't stumble anyone, should it?
AHAHAHAHA, like this?
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it was always boring, and i was afraid that i was gonna get attacked by a dog.
i actually almost got attacked by a rottweiler once.
i didnt get paid for it, nobody listened to us, i actually had guys make passes at me while i was out doing street corner, i was always afraid i would get grouped and raped.
Yes to all you said. I hated it for all those reasons
(especially the dogs).
half of our congregation goes there to work out because of the good pool facilities and prices, and the other half think that it's wrong due to it's old charter.
but no one is enforcing the wrong or right of it.
i'd be interested in knowing how this is being applied worldwide.
Thanks, TGND. I would guess that, as it does with many things, enforcement varies from region to region.
half of our congregation goes there to work out because of the good pool facilities and prices, and the other half think that it's wrong due to it's old charter.
but no one is enforcing the wrong or right of it.
i'd be interested in knowing how this is being applied worldwide.
I know that my parents were disapproving of my Y membership, but that was 4 or 5 years ago. As far as they were concerned, membership was still verboten.
I never saw any JWS at the Y where I work out for many years - it's the only one in town (closed last year, and building a new one).
so i'm loving the fact that my little one gets to be a "normal" child and take part in everything at school.
however i still have that stupid niggling in the back of my head that she shouldn't be doing it and it's wrong etc.
at the moment she is rehearsing for the nativity play and keeps singing the songs at home (she is going to be an angel!
timeheals, it's hard when your parents are strong in the religion. When you decide you no longer need their approval, you will feel so free. Accepting and grieving that, may take some time. If their love is, indeed, conditional, well, for me, that was a big blow. Once I accepted that and grieved the loss of that which I never had, I was able to be my own person, with no shame, no regrets.
Yes, it can be done.
