talesin
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"Most women would prefer to be stay at home housewives. Women's lib did alot of damage to women!"
by purrpurr inthe above is a quote from a jw female relative.
this was in response to a discussion about the suffragette movement ( and the movie about it that's currently in cinemas).
she seemed to think that it would be so much better if women were just daughters/ wives/ mothers and didn't go out to work and have career's?
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"Most women would prefer to be stay at home housewives. Women's lib did alot of damage to women!"
by purrpurr inthe above is a quote from a jw female relative.
this was in response to a discussion about the suffragette movement ( and the movie about it that's currently in cinemas).
she seemed to think that it would be so much better if women were just daughters/ wives/ mothers and didn't go out to work and have career's?
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Yes, and who benefits from the patriarchy ----->>> the ruling classes.
That is the school of thought that leans more towards "feminism is humanism". I attended a lecture in 1995, I think (year of the woman, or some such UN PR thing), and Steinem welcomed all the men, and said "and if you do not like the term feminist, and prefer 'humanist', we celebrate your choice, and the fact that we hold the same ideals" [I am paraphrasing, but that was the gist]. For me, she and Naomi Wolfe set a tone for most of the women I knew. That is, strong and independent, but not harsh or man-hating. The message, and goal, is one of inclusiveness.
I was thinking overnight, and I do remember that book At the time, I had TV, and I believe she was on the View. If memory serves me, this book demonstrates part of the backlash against the last-wave of feminism, and got a lot of press. I also thought of Erica Jong's Fear of Flying and the "zipless f*ck" ... hahaha! That's a great read, by the way.I will suggest a book, if you are interested. It's a fiction, by essayist and philosopher Marilyn French, called The Women's Room. It's one woman's experience of life as a new divorcee who returns to college. She is traditional in her thinking, and very down with life. She is the wife who supported hubbie through college, and got ditched for the new model. But that is just an intro to the character Her journey is a good read for the story, and also has deeper undertones. It changed my life. *shrugs* It does show how powerless a 30-something divorcee was in the mid-20th century.
So, I'm rambling For a good POV of the feminist movement, obtain back issues of Ms. magazine or Mother Jones It doesn't get more real than that - and no phoney media shyte pushing individual agendas.
It's all about social injustice, yes, focusing on women - but not exclusively. Ms. actually features articles by ... wait for it ... MEN! : )
Oy, time to rest, later!
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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It's okay to live life admitting there are some things I will never know the answer to, or 'the truth' about.
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Why do people just give their money to the Watchtower?
by WireRider inwhat do they contribute to humanity?
what do they contribute to any part of society?.
why are people paying for a scam?.
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Your "Why" sounds like rhetorical, frustrated venting And I'm sure it's justified. You have your own reasons.
I know that 'those people' ruined my health by childhood abuse, denied me an education, and kicked me out on the street at a young age. I also know that the small treasures of my grandmere, left me in her will, were taken from me. Inheritance gone with the wind.
So, health destroyed, no education, did okay in spite of that, but yeah, there *was* a time when I felt so hurt (it's not about greed, it's about the unjust-ness of it all), that I, too, yelled "WHY?"
Let it out, it's okay.
xx
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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@ sparky1
anarchist philosophy ,,,,,,, awesome!
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The lord of the rings
by BlackWolf innow that i've found out ttatt i've been indulging in a lot of so called "spiritistic" entertainment lol.
i recently watched all of the lotr/hobitt movies and man were they awesome!!!
who knew spiritism could be so much fun lol.
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Witness 007
Rosemary's Baby and Exorcist were the two in my day.
BlackWolf, if you want to get creeped-out, watch Rosemary's Baby. It's old, but still works. *shivers*
The Twilight Series is mostly geared towards teens, so you may enjoy it. It's not my cup of tea, but I am old and love Dracula and Cat People. : )
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The lord of the rings
by BlackWolf innow that i've found out ttatt i've been indulging in a lot of so called "spiritistic" entertainment lol.
i recently watched all of the lotr/hobitt movies and man were they awesome!!!
who knew spiritism could be so much fun lol.
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What about the X-Men? I was forbidden comics and such. If you haven't seen those flicks, they are good, especially Wolverine. :P -
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Another example of selfish wordly people..
by defender of truth instorm desmond - how kindness is keeping cumbria afloat.
read here:.
today, we are grateful to receive warnings that help us not to have a selfish attitude like that of most in the world.
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The JWS' abuse the word 'selfish'. Having a healthy self-interest is a necessary thing. If I don't take care of myself, I cannot help others.
It's being self-absorbed that is unhealthy; that is, self-interest to the exclusion of all others. It is called narcissism. Many devout JWS exhibit this trait, often those with a 'victim mentality'.The Jehovah's Witness cult teaches its victims that any act or thought that pleases one's self, is 'selfish' and not truly showing love to others. It's one of their particularly warped teachings that promotes self-loathing on a deep level.
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I need some friends!!
by BlackWolf ini literally have 0 friends, actually i've never had any close friends.
its really started to get to me.
i homeschool and my parents keep me super isolated and all the other kids at my hall are complete a**holes!!
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talesin
I was the same. Not home-schooled, but the only time I was there was recess - had to walk home for lunch. Pariah at school. All the kids at the hall weren't 'spiritual enough' and were 'bad influences', so I had no friends.
I read a LOT. Books became my friends. It was no way to be, in your teens. I'm sorry you are going through this. Soon - SOON, not their kind of soon, but you can put a date on it - you will be able to leave You will have to work hard for low pay, and get your education, but you will make friends at work and school. Life will be so much BETTER by the time you are 20.
I did it, and so can you. Hang on, and continue to communicate. That's what we are here for.xx
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Another example of selfish wordly people..
by defender of truth instorm desmond - how kindness is keeping cumbria afloat.
read here:.
today, we are grateful to receive warnings that help us not to have a selfish attitude like that of most in the world.
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talesin
Perhaps, wisdom has he, hmmmm?
