Posts by talesin

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Well, well, the Huff Post has an article about the JW saying "mentally Diseased apostates"

by nonjwspouse in

it's good to see a widely read site such as the huff post link to this article, and below it are 5 more links to similar articles .

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/28/jehovahs-witness-magazine_n_985479.html.

talesin

This story is from 2011.

At the time, we had a big push on the forum ........ and quite a few of us wrote in to the comments section of the original newspaper that had the story (was it The Guardian or the Independent? It was in England). We spent an intense 48 hours or so, answering people's questions regarding JWS and shunning, and refuting the JWS who commented on the story.

The comments are no longer there to be read, but wow, what an anti-Witness we gave! :D "Worldly" people ARE interested in the JWS - the average person is shocked, when the reality of the WTS policies is exposed in the mainstream media.

I'd like to see more group efforts like this - exJWs offering constructive criticisms on JW youtube vids or newspaper articles, and refuting JW claims in a logical fashion.

xx

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Has anyone had a jw hack into their email/tablet/phone etc to spy?

by purrpurr in

jw
friends

i note stillin has had a recent problem with this.

i also know of two cases were an elder went through a brothers phone to get dirt on him.

and another were a sisters email was hacked into to get dirt on her.. in both cases apparently it was for their spiritual protection (!

talesin

I made a comment, but it's *disappeared*.

Looking at an account that is left open, or has no password, is not hacking. Knowing your relative/friend's password and using it to read their private correspondence is not hacking.

Hacking is 'breaking in' to another person's account by using your technological know-how. I doubt this happens a lot in JW world..

If you leave your diary on the counter, and someone opens it and reads it, that is one thing. But if your diary is in a locked box, and they pick the lock so that they can read it, that is another. And that's the difference between taking advantage of someone who is not protecting their privacy by proper use of passwords, and hacking their account

It's wrong (of course!), but it's not illegal to read someone's email if they left it open, or don't have it password-protected. That is completely different from hacking, which I assume would be illegal in many jurisdictions.

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JWs now distribute Christian Rock (soft) music videos!

by freein2004 in

https://youtu.be/qxcft4hbyam.

this is from the june broadcast.

it was introduced during the last ten minutes or so of the broadcast.

talesin

Comments on the video at this link: Song: I Won't Forget You (I wanted to comment and ask if this was meant for disfellowshipped persons)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdSfTk-idjc

"I just got baptized ........ I am eleven."

"Congratulations! I just got baptized, too, and I am eleven."

:'(

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Flash Mob at the Kingdom Hall

by wisdomfrombelow in

jw
friends

wouldn't it be interesting if dozens of people showed up at a kingdom hall as part of a flash mob, not being disorderly, but to make a statement.

maybe all raising their hands on a particular question and giving a "real comment" instead of restating the paragraph.

or they could all leave if when one of the paragraphs says "internet bad...ignorance good".

talesin

There's a park next door to their District Convention (are they calling it something different now?) site in my city.

Can't get a meet-up started in this city, though, let alone a flash mob.

Perhaps one could be done at a convention in a locale that has more folks, like New England or Texas?

Just a thought ...

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are ministryideaz apostates?

by sneekyapostate in

are ministry ideaz book binders apostates cos its plastered all over the net haha?.

ministryideaz.com - meeting & service supply.

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talesin

BroMac, you mean this? (EDIT, well, lol, your vid is showing now!, but I'll leave this link up - it's their 'channel')

https://www.youtube.com/user/myministryideaz

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Children of murdered Charleston minister have "already forgiven" their Mother's killer.

by nicolaou in

i'm not judging these poor young people, if this is how they are coping with the trauma of losing their mum i can only wish them well.

i have to admit though that my jaw dropped when i first saw this interview, i couldn't square their reaction with what i understand as 'normal' human grief.. is this religiously motivated form of forgiveness a positive thing?

should i acknowledge this as something to be said in favour of religion?.

talesin

"I feel a lot, a lot of love. I'm a little bitter, but it's just ... I'm overwhelmed with love."

That is what the daughter said, and it sums up my feelings on this. It's not healthy. They are good preacher's kids (I mean that), and putting on a brave face, believing what their mother taught. But, the true feelings of rage and pain are being suppressed, and if not dealt with, these feelings will turn into a LOT of bitter with time.

xx

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Who Can Name The First F&DS Members?

by Vanderhoven7 in

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wts board of directors 1918/1919.

talesin

Ah, very interesting, Van, thanks~! Darn, I should have taken those old books my dad didn't want, while we were still speaking. (he has a very old collection - 4th generation, that's me).

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Guns. Well said Mr President, if only your countrymen had the same courage to consider changing course.

by nicolaou in

ive had to make statements like this too many times.

communities like this have had to endure tragedies like this too many times.

once again, communities [were harmed] because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no problem getting their hands on a gun.. lets be clear: at some point, we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries.

talesin

It's curious to me, that Americans fight very hard to keep their guns, but y'all don't seem too worried about losing your other freedoms? Where are the protests

Our government is in the process of passing Bill C-51, which stomps all over our constitution, and there is an huge movement to stop this bill. We don't 'quote' our Constitution, nor do we memorize it, but we sure as hell don't want Big Brother taking even more control.

What's up, America? Guns, we need them! Personal liberty - not so much! I just . don't . get it.

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Religious explanation for suffering vs church shootings

by Simon in

whenever there is a discussion about the "godness" of god and whether he can be described as both "good" and "all powerful" given that he could avoid untold suffering and death for millions of people in earthquakes, floods, tidal waves and other disasters we are often given the same answer:.

"you don't know why he lets it happen but he has a plan".. bleh.

often they throw in some snippets that suggest the people may actually deserve it for not praying to the right god or not praying hard enough.. of course it's easy to dismiss the death of all those faceless unknown people.. so, i present to you a new thought experiment for the righteous to grapple with.. i dare you to use the same arguments to explain the deaths of the people in the recent church shooting.. were they not praying hard enough?

talesin

This is food for thought, if a person is willing to use simple logic.

Even in junior high school, I remember the other kids (CoE school) singing "Jesus Loves the Little Children" and thinking "Why doesn't he love me?" ......... the seeds of doubt in "god" were planted early in my Spock-like mind.

Yes, and if it's god's plan, then why so vengeful @ the perp? WWJD?

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Who Can Name The First F&DS Members?

by Vanderhoven7 in

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wts board of directors 1918/1919.

talesin

At the time this pic was taken, the belief was "144,000" ....... ie, all of the anointed were considered the F&DS. If memory serves me.