Thanks, cofty. That really clarifies the point you were making. Belief systems, especially when learned before cognitive thinking processes are established, can be deeply-rooted in one's psychological makeup. So true!
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Evolution and spirits
by Chris Tann inas of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.
however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.
i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.
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Evolution and spirits
by Chris Tann inas of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.
however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.
i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.
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Psychology does not promote belief in spirits. The only connection I can make, is that a psychologist may help someone figure out that they are NOT seeing spirits or demons.
Seriously, I don't see what you are saying. I wouldn't want a person to discount therapy as a legitimate means of freeing themselves from the 'cult thinking' because they read here, that belief in spirits was promoted by psychology. So could you explain what you mean? Not looking to argue, just really want to get to the bottom of this, as you are quite well-read. Though we disagree on style, I agree with your facts just about 100% of the time.
Thanks!
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Despicable crazy people
by jgnat inthere are some mental illnesses which come with the potential for extreme violence.
i'm not talking the sociopath here who kills without remorse, but those mentally ill people while in the throes of their delusions who are driven to kill.
the outcomes can be horrific.. on december 6, 1989, a lone gunman gunned down fourteen women at a montreal college.
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Thank you for not mentioning 'his' name. When a woman massacres a group of men, I will consider your point more valid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvzDwvMmUTM
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Evolution and spirits
by Chris Tann inas of now iam making an unbiased examination of evolution.
however one thing keeps me hanging on to the belief of a supreme spirit being; the existence of spirits.
i have heard countless accounts of people who have experienced frightening encounters with evil forces.
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Psychology has NOTHING to do with spirits and demons. It is a medical science. Maybe check the wording, did you mean to say (????).
I only mention this Cofty, because so many JWs have been taught that going to a psychologist or therapist can encourage demons, not to pick at what you said. Many JWs and ex-JWs need therapy, and linking psychology to belief in demons and spirits is just wrong. Thanks.
To the OP, please reference any newspaper articles - this is quite vague.
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New development in my life
by EdenOne inno longer a ms ........................... can't give details atm, for it might be a dead-giveaway and it ain't quite over yet.
but, it really taught me one thing: if you're trying to fade or stay in, trust no one.
and i mean no one.. eden.
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Thanks for correcting me, DOH! I was thinking of Joe Grundy (?? JWN username) ......... can I plead 'old age'?
Sorry, Paul / JWFacts.Still grinning though, happy for you, wife and son. ;)
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New development in my life
by EdenOne inno longer a ms ........................... can't give details atm, for it might be a dead-giveaway and it ain't quite over yet.
but, it really taught me one thing: if you're trying to fade or stay in, trust no one.
and i mean no one.. eden.
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I just finished reading the thread, and wow! I'm so happy your wife is with you.
Good luck tomorrow; I hope you get to make the arguments you want. "Fight the good fight" , and live in REAL truth.
Cheers to Barbara Anderson and Joe Grundy for helping, as well. (wow, Joe Grundy, you sure are amazing for being a never-in-the-JW and caring so much about us!)
xx
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Is there a comprehensive list of all public JW sex abuse cases/coverups?
by EndofMysteries inhere and there we are always finding news reports.
if talking to somebody they may claim it's only one or 2,etc.
i was wondering if anywhere a collection of all cases has been posted?
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You're welcome, smiddy. :))
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Is there a comprehensive list of all public JW sex abuse cases/coverups?
by EndofMysteries inhere and there we are always finding news reports.
if talking to somebody they may claim it's only one or 2,etc.
i was wondering if anywhere a collection of all cases has been posted?
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Is there a comprehensive list of all public JW sex abuse cases/coverups?
by EndofMysteries inhere and there we are always finding news reports.
if talking to somebody they may claim it's only one or 2,etc.
i was wondering if anywhere a collection of all cases has been posted?
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Is there a comprehensive list of all public JW sex abuse cases/coverups?
by EndofMysteries inhere and there we are always finding news reports.
if talking to somebody they may claim it's only one or 2,etc.
i was wondering if anywhere a collection of all cases has been posted?
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There is quite a list of the 'out-of-court' and other legal settlements and a LOT of information on this site - the url I've given you is a list of Rick Ross' archives, which I found most helpful a few years back. It took a bit of digging to find it, as it's archived now, in the Cult Education centre (or whatever it's called) site.
Just scroll down to "J", find the JWs, and explore. He has detailed information about many cases.
http://www.culteducation.com/group.html
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