"If you would only come back to Jehovah ... <fill in the blank>"
"The worst JW is better than the nicest worldly person."
"This old system of things ..." WTF does that MEAN?
regarding worldly people, shows or toys?
etc...what quotes annoyed you the most?.
for me it was "well, you have to remember, they're worldly"... "don't trust anyone who isn't in the truth" "they may be nice but they are not friends of jehovah"... just a few to name.
"If you would only come back to Jehovah ... <fill in the blank>"
"The worst JW is better than the nicest worldly person."
"This old system of things ..." WTF does that MEAN?
with the help of jw attorney hayden covington the supreme court ruled in favor of muhammad ali's exemption status to the draft.
i admired him for taking his stand.. meanwhile we young jw guys were being hung out to dry by the wt.
goons- knorr, franz and schroeder.
NN
Please, don't regret that you did/could not go to war. YOU are a champion in so many ways, keeping your good deeds to yourself.
Perhaps if you had gone through that horror of war, you would not be present, to be the functioning, empathic person you now are. That is life, the road not taken, etc. Never regret choices, espeically those you did not make for yourSELF.
xx
tal
with the help of jw attorney hayden covington the supreme court ruled in favor of muhammad ali's exemption status to the draft.
i admired him for taking his stand.. meanwhile we young jw guys were being hung out to dry by the wt.
goons- knorr, franz and schroeder.
Captain S... Nope, it was / is Spider Robinson. He came to Nova Scotia, in the early 70s, dodging the draft. A really cool biker dude - hippy freak that I knew in my late teens', early 20s. I was lucky enough to realize 'who he was' in the late 90s, and sent him an email, to which he replied. He didn't remember me (lol, he was, as he said, a zoned out hippy back then), but he met this dancer gurl from Bridgewater, and that was all she wrote. Life after that, was all about her, and when she passed (early otts) is when I wrote him. A lovely man, all told, and glad he had success.. xo
tal
with the help of jw attorney hayden covington the supreme court ruled in favor of muhammad ali's exemption status to the draft.
i admired him for taking his stand.. meanwhile we young jw guys were being hung out to dry by the wt.
goons- knorr, franz and schroeder.
I guess it's one of those things, that is 'nuff said, and no judgment calls made. It's far too easy to see that we are living in similar times, having our rights talem away - only it is much more insidious. Those were troubled times, indeed, and there's more to come.
xo
tal
with the help of jw attorney hayden covington the supreme court ruled in favor of muhammad ali's exemption status to the draft.
i admired him for taking his stand.. meanwhile we young jw guys were being hung out to dry by the wt.
goons- knorr, franz and schroeder.
I've always admired him. It's sad that he has suffered the worst effects of a boxing career, with the brain damage. I'll never forget what he taught me - stick to your ideals, and as a fighter, KNOW you are the best! "Floats like a butterfly, stings like a bee."
He was the first rapper. He was a symbol of standing up for what he believed in. They would NEVER have taken the belt from a white champion - that person would have been exempted from military service, somehow, some way!
jam - I have friends who were draft dodgers - one was my cousin, another became a famous science fiction writer (even won a Hugo or two) ... it was a conscience driven choice for the friend .... for my cousin, I think "not so much" (he is a self-serving person anyhow), but I think each person had their own decision to make. Is it okay if some ran because they were afraid? I think so. I know that I wouldn't have been able to do it.
Man, I can only imagine how TRULY scary that must have been - you were conscripted! Little more than a child, really, being sent off to ... HELL.
And honestly, after hearing what my ex-fiancee said about jungles and trip wires, seeing your friends ... well, I won't go there ... and all that truly unimaginable stuff (for those of us who have only ever lived on 'civvy' street) that goes along with it, I give you my undying respect and admiration, for being the man you are today.
I'm wondering about the friend who is still in hiding - there was a pardon for draft dodgers, so ... I dunno, if he was a Black Panther, maybe there are 'treason' charges that will follow him for the rest of his life ... sad.
I know it took your life from you in one way - maybe it's why you joined the religion, I don't know. Just know that, to this person, reading your words for years, you seem kind and heck, someone I would want to know. You're not bitter (which is a major accomplishment), and that is a real example for all of us to look up to.
xo
tal
this thread is for you to vent about anything (within guidelines) that you want.. i'll start.. i'm sick of people who complain about how cold the weather is and then you have two 85 degree days and now they can't wait till autumn!.
People who ask a question instead of just using a search engine ... hello~!
"What does XXX mean?"
40 minutes later ...... "Why is no one commenting?"
drrrr ...........
There is a reason why the internet is called "The Information Highway"
is atheism a belief system.
after all the atheist believes there is no god .so if that's the case then an atheist if a person of faith.
they have faith in the fact there is no god.
I'm confused.
If I was a Buddhist but didn't believe in faeries, then is not believing in faeries a belief system?
So, I could be both a Buddhist, and a non-faery-ist?
tal
it was a long time coming for me.....when i read about the extened generations, after being raised on1914 being the be all end all, and millions would never die....that was the end.
i was part of the 1975 fiasco, the 6 month only truth book studies, suffered through a disifellowshipping and their version of a rewind.
i finally am free and hope others can eventually look in instead of inside looking out!
CoCo
That is sad, and oh-so-hard, to have your mentor revealed as a charlatan. As you said, it cut you deeply. My darling man, I am so sorry for that.
Much love to you!
xo
tal
it was a long time coming for me.....when i read about the extened generations, after being raised on1914 being the be all end all, and millions would never die....that was the end.
i was part of the 1975 fiasco, the 6 month only truth book studies, suffered through a disifellowshipping and their version of a rewind.
i finally am free and hope others can eventually look in instead of inside looking out!
New York,
Thank you! To be honest, I don't think I've ever gotten over that. When it happened, I went into a semi-coma state for about 3 months, it was one of the worst times.
much love, and tks for seeing it.
xoxo
tal
is atheism a belief system.
after all the atheist believes there is no god .so if that's the case then an atheist if a person of faith.
they have faith in the fact there is no god.
MadGiant
ha! Great pic.