when did you guys start to doubt your faith in god?'.
what made you doubt your faith in god?.
thanks !.
One of the main factors was you're not born knowing that God exists, someone tells you that he exists. How do they know? They read it in a book. How did the writers of the book know? They say that God told them. How do we know God told them? The writers say so. This means that to believe in God you actually have to have faith in men.
Well said Onager!!! I will save this
when did you guys start to doubt your faith in god?'.
what made you doubt your faith in god?.
thanks !.
Even when I was a Zealous JW, I was really wondering about the talking snake story.
The Bible mentions clearly and Unambiguously that the serpent was involved, which the WT interprets as Satan. This was bothering me always and I even wrote a letter to the WT to clarify this. They made the same stupid Justification that Satan talked to Eve using the snake as a Ventriloquist
Next, one WT study article came about the Elisha being ridiculed and then the kids were all torn by bears. Couldn’t stand the WT conductor justify this.
Next day I googled this Elisha Bear story and ALAS! A whole ton of ridicule and criticism about this Elisha story on the internet. And then the floodgates of the Bible absurdities were opened. Rest is history as for any thinking person.
Nothing makes you more of an Atheist than the Holy Bible.
you gotta wonder just how well jws are doing in "fulfilling their commission" in afghanistan, iran, malaysia, maldives, mauritania, nigeria, pakistan, qatar, saudi arabia, somalia, sudan, united arab emirates and yemen.
https://www.indy100.com/article/the-countries-where-apostasy-is-punishable-by-death--z110j2uwxb.
+ SIngapore. Apostasy is not an offense here but JWs are banned becasue they dont serve the military, which is compulsary for every citizen.
So in all those 14 countries(and may be many more), the most important life saving work about the most high god is banned, for many decades.
Does this fit into any common sense ?
friends,.
with the circular speading of my satire tread about the annual meeting on many different ways, even informal across the jw organization, i'm pretty sure that the news about russia (new king of the north) is not real.. there was a moment i thought that it was a coïncidence that incoming messages mentioned it also.. now i suppose it started all with my op, went trending through the organization (even through bethel belgium) and became a story on it's own.. this is not realy my style and i'm not proud of it.. g..
Just imagine the WT doctrines, 50 years from now.
All the now GB would have been long gone.
A new set of GB would have arrived, may be Jws who are in their 20’s now.
King of the south would have changed by then.. Even the King of the north
Blood ban would have been lifted.
Same sex marriages would be performed in Kingdom halls.
Women may be elders.
Filed service would have been changed drastically. May be Field service from the comfort of Kingdom halls or homes through some optical Virtual Images.
The only things that wont change would be: Armeggadon is imminent threat, donations and the discouragement to read old WT Publications.
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/pure-worship/summary-of-clarifications/.
is christendom the antitype of ancient apostate jerusalem?.
previous understanding: unfaithful jerusalem is a prophetic type of christendom.
Christendom has never practiced pure worship" so says the Governing Body.
Yet they have adopted the same bible books as protestant`s have centuries ago and also adopted the name of God "Jehovah" that a Spanish catholic monk invented in the 13th century. ?
Well said. And the Holy Bible was compiled by the Roman Politicians, who founded the Roman Catholic Church
what is watchtowers position on the identity of the king of the north?
Jehovahs has pointed out as Russia - as for now - through his holy GB, until further notice.
according to the pope that darn old devil is attacking the catholic church.
i am sure when the dubs see this news they will get all excited and see it as the start of the final attack on false religion.
naturally they will ignore all their mounting in house problems of the same type of sexual abuse and cover up.
Poor Satan. All of christendoms sects and Islam blame him/her/it for every bad things.
jws have a unique interpretation of the seven kings of revelation.
they of course refer to roman rulers, but the wt believe they represent certain 'world powers'.. the problem with these world powers is how arbitrary they are, not to mention the fact that none of them truly were world powers, in fact none of them even covered the entirety of europe, and the anglo-american world power isn't even a distinct entity.. then there are all of the world powers that are left out for convenience, many of which were far bigger.
the mongolian empire and the ottoman empire were both bigger than half of the chosen world powers, such as medo-persia.. has anyone ever taken this topic up with jws?
When i was in the JW cult, I was continuously brainwashed that these were the World powers: I felt so proud memorizing it and vomiting it often
BABYLON, MEDO-PERSIA,GREECE,ROMAN AND ANGLO-AMERICAN WORLD POWERS
IS there any historical proof for this. Is there anything such as a World Power or is this Just a WT cook up ? What does World power actually mean in a general context and in WT context.
present that bit of information to a jws and what would you expect from them in reply ?
but in reality its true and you can support that statement by even using the bible.. the wts/jws is just one of many organizations of anti biblical charlatanism endeavored around literature proliferation.
the jws organization self identifies itself as the most righteous and faithfully adherent to the bible, yet when one examines the bible carefully particularly the words and teachings of jesus christ, there are obvious discrepancies and apostasy .. the operating leaders of the wts going back to the late 1800's were not pressed to gain support and confirmation from outside sources for their own acquired theology as in pyramidology teachings etc.. they were more pressed to make up their own teachings which in expectation were appealing to the general public at large , such as " christ has return a new world order to come ".. great statements to make or position on the front cover of a magazine as it were but not faithfully adherent to the bible or the instruction laid out by jesus in preaching his new kingdom to come.. for most of the history of the wts/jws it was an organization that presented and preached a tainted false commercialized gospel influenced more upon literature proliferation then scriptural accuracy and adherence.
The word Prophet itself is a misnomer or an illusionary term. Nobody can prophesy (Predict future things) in this world and anyone who profess to do so is a conman.
Jesus himself was a (false) Prophet, whose prophecies eventually never happened. And so are the various Bible Writers.
ANd there is nothing called salvation either. Death is common for any living species and thats the end of it. "Salvation" is one of the various imaginary concept coined by Bible writers
so, a new book on ezekiel.
an opportunity for the borg to distance itself from wacky ideas of times past?
er...no....if only this might inspire some sincere jdub to go to the internet archive and actually read this stuff: https://archive.org/details/thefinishedmystery.
Pure Worship of Jehovah -- Restored at last
So it took 1890 years for Jehovah to restore his Pure Worship.
But Jehovah is Super fast when ordering to Kill the various tribes, for silly reasons
