something which i always found surprising when i attended the kingdom halls i studied was how angry, even vicious, many jehovah's witnesses could become when a watchtower study featured some persons and/or institutions the organization disapproved of, say, higher education and educators, christendom and its clergy, apostates, etc.
many seemed to sadistically enjoy denigrating these persons or institutions when the watchtower study conductor called on them and they were handed a microphone.
i wondered for a long time where this anger came from, and i've developed a hypothesis for explaining this.. according to a book i'm reading by alice miller called "for your own good: hidden cruelty in child-rearing and the roots of violence," children who are strictly controlled and abused (whether emotionally or physically) typically go on to unleash the anger they inevitably felt at their parents, but were never allowed to express, at their children or those around them.
When I was in, I was terrible angry over Chrsitendom for taking off Gods Name from the Bible. Was angry over people who celebrate Birthdays and Christmas. Such a Dumber.
Its all a result of the hate Propaganda by WT, that starts right from their Bible Study
jesus used illustration to make things clear.
hence imagine yourself in a situation which reminds you of an important teaching:.
you are in a super market, and you are told: “someone has already paid for whatever you have purchased”[as churches teach through their ransom sacrifice].
@venus,
It's the fear of death and insecurity of life that makes people believe Bizarre religious concepts
jesus used illustration to make things clear.
hence imagine yourself in a situation which reminds you of an important teaching:.
you are in a super market, and you are told: “someone has already paid for whatever you have purchased”[as churches teach through their ransom sacrifice].
The Christian story of God the Father putting his son to death, or employing people to do it (for that is the plain language of the story) cannot be told by a parent to a child; and to tell him that it was done to make mankind happier and better is making the story still worse- as if mankind could be improved by the example of murder; and to tell him that all this is a mystery is only making an excuse for the incredibility of it
-- Thomas paine
i'm sure most here who've questioned or left behind their belief in god have encountered this question - without god, what basis can there be for morality?
my exwife, when i admitted that i was an atheist, once asked me "if you don't believe in god, what's to stop you from going out and raping and murdering?
" previously, whenever i got this objection, i would tend to turn it around on the other person with a response along the lines of "if fear of god is the only thing that stops you from murdering, that makes me rather nervous to be around you.
Well said.
i'm sure most here who've questioned or left behind their belief in god have encountered this question - without god, what basis can there be for morality?
my exwife, when i admitted that i was an atheist, once asked me "if you don't believe in god, what's to stop you from going out and raping and murdering?
" previously, whenever i got this objection, i would tend to turn it around on the other person with a response along the lines of "if fear of god is the only thing that stops you from murdering, that makes me rather nervous to be around you.
If any Christian comes and preaches me about Gods Morality I would ask him /her about the morality of these events
God Subjecting Adam and eve and all their generations to undue sufferings, all because eve disobeyed and ate a fruit.
It’s ok to own slaves and beat them
A man stoned to death because he picked up sticks on the Sabbath
Uzziah killed instantly because with all good intent he prevented the ark from falling
God killing the First Born of Egypt because Pharaoh disobeyed him
Lot and His Daughters incestuous Story, yet Lot is called a Righteous person
Jah kills 70K People because David took a census
Daughter In law seduces her Father in law.
The murder Pillage by Joshua and Moses, ordered by the Morale god.
God Kills Job’s children and servants because of a bet with the Devil.
Jah is satisfied with the torture and Killing of his own son.
in fact, only three books of the hebrew scriptures, 1 chronicles, job, and zechariah, mention satan, which means “resister.” why was little said about our enemy prior to the arrival of the messiah?.
3 apparently, jehovah did not want to give satan undue prominence by devoting large portions of the hebrew scriptures to discussing him and his activity.
jehovah’s primary purpose for inspiring that section of the scriptures was to identify the messiah and lead god’s people to him.. .
Apparently, Jehovah did not want to give Satan undue prominence
But is still allowing Satan to be an Immensley powerful and invisible force that can influence and harm mankind and who can bring untold miseries and so on...
Ok, I understand God's grand divine plan now.
when you grow up and look back on childhood belief you have to laugh at how.
easter bunnies and santa were all too plausible for children because trusted adults who were otherwise unimpeachable sources of truth and reality assured and reassured kids.
why wouldn't they accept it?jehovah's witness kids didn't have santa, we had armageddon.only this morning i suddenly asked myself why i ever accepted the idea of a war in heaven as even remotely sane.
Satan and his demons were cast out of heaven into earth. What a loving Arrangement.
AS if the earth has less of Problems. THis is just like a loving dad sending serial killers to his childrens home.
i'm a current bible student of jw's looking to chat with someone about biblical doctrine.
i'm not interested in talking with an apostate or a fader, i'm just a person looking for answers and wondered if there are any neutral voices in this forum who have good insights into the bible.
i currently talk with a couple of jw's on a personal level from my congregation and they are knowledgeable to a certain extent, but i dare not ask them certain questions because, as you know, the congregation has a culture of fear that impacts trust and openness, especially concerning biblical doctrine or the societies teachings.
AS you had requested, this site has a lot of good insights into the bible.
when you grow up and look back on childhood belief you have to laugh at how.
easter bunnies and santa were all too plausible for children because trusted adults who were otherwise unimpeachable sources of truth and reality assured and reassured kids.
why wouldn't they accept it?jehovah's witness kids didn't have santa, we had armageddon.only this morning i suddenly asked myself why i ever accepted the idea of a war in heaven as even remotely sane.
@venus
You have good points
when you grow up and look back on childhood belief you have to laugh at how.
easter bunnies and santa were all too plausible for children because trusted adults who were otherwise unimpeachable sources of truth and reality assured and reassured kids.
why wouldn't they accept it?jehovah's witness kids didn't have santa, we had armageddon.only this morning i suddenly asked myself why i ever accepted the idea of a war in heaven as even remotely sane.
After all, humans can make an evil person powerless in a matter minutes, hours or days.
The almighty that created the mighty galaxies, star clusters and stuff, cant make Satan powerless in an instant ?
How childish to believe in this “War in heaven” story ? Written for idiots to believe, by a Psycho.
