EverApostate

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  Casting Out DEMONS

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if someone believes they're being plagued with demons or they have problems with hauntings, things moving by themselves or hearing voices or footsteps, who they gonna call?

  i know they take demons very seriously, so who in the congregation do they go to when they need to bring out the big guns?

  do they try to handle it themselves or is this a job for the elders?

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  EverApostate

  I heard from a JW sister that her unbelieving relative had bought her a piece of clothing from a christian charity and her dog was continuously barking. Once she got rid of it, it stopped barking. Very amusing to recollect that now.
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  Casting Out DEMONS

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if someone believes they're being plagued with demons or they have problems with hauntings, things moving by themselves or hearing voices or footsteps, who they gonna call?

  i know they take demons very seriously, so who in the congregation do they go to when they need to bring out the big guns?

  do they try to handle it themselves or is this a job for the elders?

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  EverApostate

  I have not seen anyone reporting to elders about demon possessed persons. This whole demon casting is a misunderstanding or ignorance of mental or health Issues during ancient times.

  Of course the WT advises its flock not to buy anything from Church Garage sales, to avoid demons, which is bronze age stupidity
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  Jehovah uses the government to discipline his people

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i had a conversation with my dad concerning the legal cases the jws are loosing and how their policies are still lacking.

  he answered that he has confidence that jehovah will give his people the wisdom and discernment necessary to make the changes.

  i then explained that most of the improvements were made as a result of various court cases, including the australian commission.. my dad: well, than, jehovah uses the governments to discipline his people just like he did with the jews.

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  Jehovah uses the Governments of Singapore, North Korea and Saudi Arabia to ban his kingdom work in those countries ?

  Seems the Great GB only could discern that
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  Was It Really Mental Illness or Was It The Demons?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we supposedly had more than a few “demonized” people in our congregation.

  they would hear voices or feel internal punishment within their souls.

  the answer was always—-these people were affected by the demons and they needed counseling!.

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  EverApostate

  Jesus cast out 7 demons out of his Close Associate Mary Magdalene.

  Mark 16:9 "...he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils
  

  Hence watch out and even count how many there are. May be useful to log in Field Service report
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  Biblical incidents that bothered me.

  by EverApostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i wanted to discuss the (supposed) biblical events that disturbed me a lot when i was a jw.

  these incidents were just read and discussed in the kingdom hall as if these are normal and justified, which clearly weren't.

  perhaps this led to my awakening.

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  EverApostate

  Stillin

  How dare you criticize God!

  I am criticizing a fictional imagination that was created by ancient middle east tribes, which I too believed to be true once.

  His wisdom is far surpassing to ours, so we should just keep our opinions to ourselves.

  Yes, I can see God's wisdom that allowed a snake to talk and deceive the whole of mankind with so much of sufferings.

  God's Wisdom is manifested by the terrible Earthquakes(Even one today), destructive tsunamis, Hurricanes, Floods, Landslides, volcanic eruptions, meteorite strikes... Do they
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  Biblical incidents that bothered me.

  by EverApostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i wanted to discuss the (supposed) biblical events that disturbed me a lot when i was a jw.

  these incidents were just read and discussed in the kingdom hall as if these are normal and justified, which clearly weren't.

  perhaps this led to my awakening.

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  EverApostate

  Wow. How many Great comments over the weekend. Sorry I was travelling. I liked this most

  Also this whole belief system that in his perfect justice (that we can't question or even understand according to the GB) all the 6000 plus years of human existence filled with so much injustice and suffering - that he still watches it all and lets it continue on to wait on humans to realize he has the right to rule. If I worked for a boss that let bad things continue over and over again to happen and did not take control of the workplace properly I would rightly conclude that this boss does not have the right to govern.
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  Biblical incidents that bothered me.

  by EverApostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i wanted to discuss the (supposed) biblical events that disturbed me a lot when i was a jw.

  these incidents were just read and discussed in the kingdom hall as if these are normal and justified, which clearly weren't.

  perhaps this led to my awakening.

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  EverApostate

  God can become a raving maniac

  Yes, the Bible has several incidents where the almighty becomes a Raving maniac. How come this is possible if he is the Epitome of love ? Losing patience and becoming angry on petty things are the worst of imperfections and yet the Almighty very often Succumbs to it.

  Poor guy . I think there are no Anger Management classes in Heaven.

  
  
  
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  Biblical incidents that bothered me.

  by EverApostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i wanted to discuss the (supposed) biblical events that disturbed me a lot when i was a jw.

  these incidents were just read and discussed in the kingdom hall as if these are normal and justified, which clearly weren't.

  perhaps this led to my awakening.

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  EverApostate

  @problemaddict 2

  In a personal discussion with an elder, I was told that BigJ would resurrect the (innocent) people that he himself killed like the first born of Egyptians, 70K killed due to Davids Census and so on.

  Yes, And the ones like Sodom and Gomorroh wouldn't.
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  Hoping I can stay

  by allyson in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i started studying with witnesses about 21 months ago.

  started going to meetings in march 2017, went to the memorial and attended my first convention.

  i love it.

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  EverApostate

  @allyson

  Don't fall for the love Bombs that your congregation bestows upon you. Its all fake. And this religion is full of deceit and lies. I had personally experienced this.
  
  
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  Biblical incidents that bothered me.

  by EverApostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i wanted to discuss the (supposed) biblical events that disturbed me a lot when i was a jw.

  these incidents were just read and discussed in the kingdom hall as if these are normal and justified, which clearly weren't.

  perhaps this led to my awakening.

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  EverApostate

  @stillin

  Right. I used to do the same when debating with any other JW or Christians. When I relate a Biblical Event with a similar experience they would provide normal feedback..

  As soon as I say its from the Bible, they would go on with the Defensive crap like "God Knows best", "Nothing is evil in Gods Eyes", "Jah will resurrect even if he kills" and so on....