Blondie, Czech Republic castrates pedophiles, and they have high success rate on low re-offense rate. It was even reported in the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7871783.stm). This law goes years back and since 1977, there was only one violent recidivist who killed. Over 90% of the offenders after surgery (it prevent penile erection as well) have not offended. Czech Republic has the lowest recidivism rate of all of EU on sexual crimes. Poland and Germany has similar laws as well.
Posts by kaik
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36Those aussie elders may escape repercussions after all....RC day 3
by Witness My Fury indamn those tricky state laws: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmeg1omfumk 15:30 on.
annoying no?.
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Cecil the Lion deserved what he got...That's right. I said it.
by cappytan inlions are notorious murderers of beautiful zebras, antelope and other graceful exotic animals.
cecil probably contributed to the deaths of hundreds if not thousands of animals.
what happened to him was justice.. you reap what you sow.
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Lions are soon to be endangered species. It is bad enough that they had to lure a big cat from national reserve and kill it illegally outside as it tells you how little of them is left in the wildlife.. I hope this boomer serves prison time in Zimbabwe for illegal poaching and on his return to Minnesota, he loose his practice. It is enough that he had illegal bear hunt in Wisconsin and was charged with perjury, and was forced to pay 127,000 to settle sexual harassment by touching one of his patient. -
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Those aussie elders may escape repercussions after all....RC day 3
by Witness My Fury indamn those tricky state laws: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmeg1omfumk 15:30 on.
annoying no?.
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International warrant and Interpol after GB asses, and they would not be safe anywhere. Every country would handed over as they do not like to shield pedophiles and their enables. Let's hope someone would face justice in the court for protecting pedophiles and rapists. They are lucky that this is not case in the Czech Republic where they castrate baby-rapists. -
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Governing Body, painted in a corner, now what?
by Wasanelder Once inthe governing body have painted themselves in a corner, so to speak.
if they acknowledge their response to abuse claims was insensitive, unloving and inadequate they are denying the belief that "god's way" is best and risk losing abuse cases.
if they stick with it and say it is "god's way according to the bible" they will be seen as cult leaders and risk losing abuse cases.
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I do not think WT has painted in the corner in relationship to their members. Majority of the members do not care about pedophilia scandals and cover up, they will support the FDS all the way to the Armageddon. Many organizations had similar scandals, but often close-knit communities like WT will not admit mistake. They will blame the world, Satan, demons, victims, but never will acknowledge any wrong doing. And the JWs would support them and shield them. Organizations that went through shakeup under such issues were forced by own members, but this would not happen with average, brainwashed JW. WT knows it and this is all what it matters. The HQ may sacrifice couple pawns in the process, but I agree with flipper on this. -
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How dishonest was the Apostle Paul?
by opusdei1972 inmay be some of you will be shocked by this question.
however, when i was studying the bible with critical eyes i detected that paul ( or saul of tarsus) misquoted the hebrew bible in order to get false support for his arguments.
of course, this tricky kind of use of the "scriptures" was not only used by him, but others, like the author of the gospel of matthew got unsupported doctrines misquoting verses.
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Greek and Roman societies were two diametrically different society. It has a lot to do with geography, historical development, and ethnicity. Greek world was extremely fragmented due nature and geography. Greeks did not have problem to enslave each other and wage a war with each other all the time. They lacked unifying force, even Alexander of Macedonia did not unify all Greek-states.
Rome was built with extensive military force. In its peak it was as big as Napoleon Grande Armée 1800 years later as a permanent fighting force. Army was the center of the Roman hierarchy. It disposed the rulers, sold the imperial seat to the highest bidder, secured peace, access to public services, and social rise. It provided also stable monetary benefit for the members and after years of service, some place to live. Romans also held its power by force, but also carrot policy to its provinces. It was policy to "rewarding the friends and punishing enemies". Many people looked upon Rome for security, peace, stability, and prosperity. Not all provinces were conquered by force, some of them were deeded, and other chose Rome over barbarians like Noricum.
Both Greeks and Romans were extremely pious and religious. Faith had importance in every day life, and family was detrimental for survival. The idea that Romans spent every evening on orgies and brothels, is much of the Christian invention. While there is not denial that this happened, they were not defining moments of daily Greeko-Roman citizens.
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How dishonest was the Apostle Paul?
by opusdei1972 inmay be some of you will be shocked by this question.
however, when i was studying the bible with critical eyes i detected that paul ( or saul of tarsus) misquoted the hebrew bible in order to get false support for his arguments.
of course, this tricky kind of use of the "scriptures" was not only used by him, but others, like the author of the gospel of matthew got unsupported doctrines misquoting verses.
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Roman society was not ascetic as was the case of Middle Ages, or denial of sexuality as was the case in Victorian era, which witnessed destruction of thousands of arts from Antiquity, Renaissance, and Baroque era deemed to be immoral. According to Joyce E. Salisbury, whose "The Blood of Martyrs: Unintended Consequences of Ancient Violence" mentions that Roman society was deeply conservative, where the family was the backbone of the civilization. Women were subject of their husband or fathers, and they did not have sexual freedom we see it through 21st century eyes.
There are dozens books on Roman family, sex, and scandals from Imperial Rome. Wayne R. Dynes in 1992 characterized Republican Rome as a conservative, authoritarian, and restrictive attitude toward sex, women considered as inferior, and a deep fear of homosexuality. Roman society was militaristic, dominated by mighty army which prohibited sex that would undermine power structure and command line, unlike Hellenistic world, where sexual attitudes were more open.
Generally, in the term of sex, people see Roman society through medieval and early Christian ascetic views, and get their judgment impaired by movies like Caligula. In fact, many people find sexually restrictive, conservative, behavior in Rome shocking.
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How dishonest was the Apostle Paul?
by opusdei1972 inmay be some of you will be shocked by this question.
however, when i was studying the bible with critical eyes i detected that paul ( or saul of tarsus) misquoted the hebrew bible in order to get false support for his arguments.
of course, this tricky kind of use of the "scriptures" was not only used by him, but others, like the author of the gospel of matthew got unsupported doctrines misquoting verses.
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Rome was already leading power during the Republic. Levant was under control of Roman empire for 100 years at the time of Jesus. While Greeks was the most dominant language in Roman empire through its history, it was never language of the majority. There was 18-20 millions of Greek speakers in Roman Empire while the Empire in the peak had 80 million people. Rome as city dominated the empire and the Roman emperors dictated the fashion. When empress changed her hairstyle, so did every free women from Britain to Judea. Picture of the emperors were all over the empire as official documents had to be signed under "Imperial" presence. Caligula was big admirer of Egyptian pharaoh lifestyle (maybe reason why he was sexually active with his sister) and wanted to move his court to Alexandria. Either way during his reign, men kept their hair short or shaved, because he was balding. It was his big handicap and he was ashamed of it.
Paul was a Roman citizen, therefore, he followed legislative proceedings and benefits of the Roman world, which included Roman citizenship. This was Latin benefit, and had nothing to do with Greeks. Greeks were regularly enslaved and sold as a cattle on slave markets all over the Roman empire. Paul would have not much to gain from being Greek speaking in the position of the Imperial court where he appealed.
"Sexual issues? Well, he's talking to people who live in the land of the orgy"
People are too much affected by viewing the movie Caligula and gossip courts stories, and subsequent Christian ascetics, but generally, Roman society was very conservative. Even on the matter of sex subject. While sex was available, so did prostitution, same-sex relationships, free attitude, we cannot talk about sex as open in Roman time in our post 1960's sexual revolution. Romans would not even kiss in public as it was not recommended since the time of Augustus. Commodus was ridiculed for kissing his favorite boy-toy in public, and Severus criticized for showing affection to his wife Julia Domna.
Either way, it is not possible to separate Paul from Roman citizenship. He was born with it and it was still very rare in his lifetime for non-Latin subjects. Emperor Caracalla expanded in 212, but in 50AD we can estimate about 7 million of Roman citizens in the empire, most of them in Italy.
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pity that A.H. did not stick with his paintings.. world would be better place.
If there were three people in the history that should not be born, he is one of them., second is Stalin, and third is Ghenghis Khan.
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In countries north of the Alp that were under Catholic control, blond baby Jesus was rather normal. There are also different Madonna and Jesus baby depiction as a black woman with child called Black Madonna. There are dozens of medieval and baroque depiction ranging from Polish Czechstochowska to Guadeloupe. There are no unified depictions and colors of Madonna from the same country at the same century. Bohemian Gothic between 1300 and 1400 depicts them in blue, red, or golden colors.. -
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The Confederates Were Biblically and Constitutionally Right About Slavery.
by Village Idiot inhow low can conservatives go?
how racist can they get?
and whats more, two black conservative men?!?
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Nothing surprising. Also remember, there were people of colors who fought along the side of Nazi Germany and were in SS (around 40000 or so). There was entire regiment of them during WWII and many came from former German colonies in Africa like Namibia.
Slavery was justified by bible all the way in the late Antiquity. While many Christian thinkers thought of it as morally wrong; they believed it was a natural order of the society. In medieval times, and later during Enlightenment, Christianity in both parts of Europe justified serfdom, lets be Protestant church in Germany and Prussia, or Catholic church in Austrian monarchy. It was actually secular government that abolished serfdom in the 18th century against protest of clergy. French revolution abolished slavery after secular Jacobins with Robespierre got control of the government during the Terror. Church leadership did very little to improve people's conditions. They actually thrive in people's misery.