Posts by kaik

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Jesus died for US...technically

by enigma1863 in

for god so loved the world he gave his only begotten son and then took him back.

that's not love, its a big legal loophole.

people have technically died in the past, and by the standards of diagnosing death in bible times you could definitely beat 48 hrs and return.

kaik

drake, English is not my native language; therefore, there is difference between kike and kaik especially they do not belong to the same group of language, and this nickname is from ugro-finnish language which was Slavicized. Actually my SN predates my English as it followed it my since my childhood in far away place you most likely never heard off.

Whatever Paul wrote is irrelevant to the Jews. Paul was a false apostle and Jesus was a false Messiah. If you even bother to read a bit of Jewish faith or have at least college course on Judaism, I wont have to debate why there is too many fallacies in Christianity when it comes to ransom, and entire nonsense surrounding his existence. To Jews Jesus did not fulfill anything that would make him to be a Messiah. There is no reason accept him as Messiah when their writing clearly pointed out who he would be. Christian made a construct on OT outside of Judaism. Every rabbi would not have a problem to prove that NT is wrong and entire Christianity is founded on false understanding of OT. For 2000 years, Christians are unable to prove Jewish faith to be wrong, no religious Jews would accept Jesus, or reconcile the NT with OT.

Any case, I think I have a put enough on this topics. Jews do not believe Jesus is messiah nor that there is a need for mediator between you and the G-d. Everyone is free to believe what he or she desires. There is no debate on it. Jews and millions of other people do not believe in Christianity and the sky have not fallen down.

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Jesus died for US...technically

by enigma1863 in

for god so loved the world he gave his only begotten son and then took him back.

that's not love, its a big legal loophole.

people have technically died in the past, and by the standards of diagnosing death in bible times you could definitely beat 48 hrs and return.

kaik

1st century Christians were most likely Jews. Since Jews do not have a temple they do not perform sacrifices or offerings which cased in 70AD. There is not temple, no offering as their beliefs dictates that this can be done only in the temple. It is actually forbidden to make offering elsewhere. Therefore, Jews believe repentance for and of their own, individual sins directly to G-d (Hosea 14:2). For Jews back then and today; there cannot be mediator between you and G-d. Therefore, no need for Jesus. You are responsible for your own sin, not for sin anyone else. This is one of the central teaching of Judaism.

Slidin fast, when I was with WT, the entire concept of the Christ sacrifice never made sense. The original sin, being imperfect due Adam and Eve, etc.

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Will there ever be another campaign like the 2006 one with kn37 ("The End of False Religion Is Near!")?

by Magnum in

remember the 2006 tract campaign with kingdom news 37 - the end of false relgion is near!?

it seems to me that jwdom has changed to the point that there will not be anymore such campaigns.

it seems that the new rebranded jwdom is too soft for such a campaign; it's too feel-good, happy-clappy, and mainstream.. i just can't imagine a tract campaign like that coming from the new jwdom.

kaik

jhine, Christianity is dying breed in many countries in the world and their share in Middle East had decreased significantly since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire 100 years ago. Do you realize Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, and Egypt used to have significant Christian population and today is it is a shell of its former glory.

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Jesus died for US...technically

by enigma1863 in

for god so loved the world he gave his only begotten son and then took him back.

that's not love, its a big legal loophole.

people have technically died in the past, and by the standards of diagnosing death in bible times you could definitely beat 48 hrs and return.

kaik

Drake, Christianity of today is different from Christianity of the 16th century, from 1054 split, or from being the minority faith of the Roman empire population. Any case, Judaism predates Christianity and my point is that no Jews could accept a concept of redemption by Jesus because it never made sense to them. This was the same in the 1st century or today. Judaism for much of his history stresses emphasis on direct relationship with G-d and there is no need anyone for paying up for your own sin. Everyone is responsible only for its own sin, it is not inherited (yes, Jews do not believe in original Adamic sin), G-d cannot sacrifice himself to pay debt to Himself. Again you fail to see what Judaism was and is about. Judaism also does not have centralized worship nor have central organization responsible for interpretation of their writings and faith. Jews do not travel to Jerusalem either to do sacrifice, nor stoning disobedient children.

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Jesus died for US...technically

by enigma1863 in

for god so loved the world he gave his only begotten son and then took him back.

that's not love, its a big legal loophole.

people have technically died in the past, and by the standards of diagnosing death in bible times you could definitely beat 48 hrs and return.

kaik

Drake, if you do not know about Judaism, please do not comment it. I am married to Jew, and all my in-laws are Jewish and some of them are Orthodox. Judaism does not have mediator. Judaism does not teach it. Period. You do not need it. There is nobody between you and G-d; therefore, Jesus sacrifice does not make sense in the eyes of Jews, their faith, and their cultural context. You comment my post on topic you HAVE NO CLUE! I stated that Jews do not accept Jesus. This is fact. Anyone to be professing Jew cannot reconcile Christian nonsense of Jesus Christ. Whatever is written in NT including in John 14 have no whatsoever authority for Jews as it is not considered a part of their holy writings. Somewhere in your post you failed to see though you evangelical indoctrination that there is entire religion that predates Christianity, have books that Christian misused for their own faith, and yet you see them wrong, because you believe your faith is right.

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When a Witness claim the uniqueness of Bible and its accurate prophecies!

by abiather in

with the bulletin of atomic scientists moving its iconic doomsday clock up 2 minutes on 23.01.2015 (which means we are just three minutes closer to midnight in comparison to 17 minutes to midnight in 1991), and rapturewatch.net/timelines.htm predicting the end of the world as early as 2017, subject of last days is getting heated up again..

next time you have a witness boasts about the uniqueness of biblical propheciesespecially about last days, you can point the following photographic description of our times found in srimad bhagavatam, one of the ancient scriptures written even before the bible:.

1) religion, truthfulness, cleanliness, tolerance, mercy, duration of life, physical strength and memory will all diminish day by day because of the powerful influence of the age of kali (age of unrigteousness).12.2.1.

kaik

"Communism came as a replacement of tyranny, only to become more tyrannical later"

Communism is tyranny because its ideology works on suppression of individual freedom. Countries that experienced communism eventually evolved from brutal form of Stalin oppression to leisure-free communism later. There is a huge difference between communist countries in 1950's versus 1960's or 1985 when this ideology was dying off.

Hospitals were either for profit today, 50 years ago or 100 years ago. For that reason most of the countries established single payer system or have regulation. Until 1920's when Europeans countries started health insurance, how you think the healthcare system worked? It was either on voluntary pay, charity, donations, or community service, or you have to pay and even go to debtor prison.

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When a Witness claim the uniqueness of Bible and its accurate prophecies!

by abiather in

with the bulletin of atomic scientists moving its iconic doomsday clock up 2 minutes on 23.01.2015 (which means we are just three minutes closer to midnight in comparison to 17 minutes to midnight in 1991), and rapturewatch.net/timelines.htm predicting the end of the world as early as 2017, subject of last days is getting heated up again..

next time you have a witness boasts about the uniqueness of biblical propheciesespecially about last days, you can point the following photographic description of our times found in srimad bhagavatam, one of the ancient scriptures written even before the bible:.

1) religion, truthfulness, cleanliness, tolerance, mercy, duration of life, physical strength and memory will all diminish day by day because of the powerful influence of the age of kali (age of unrigteousness).12.2.1.

kaik

There was never golden age, it is only illusion of the future generations. Romans thought in their peak time that the golden age was the early republic where there was no distinctive class boundaries, and every Roman had a field around the forum where they meet for discuss tribal problem and judge based on the 12 tablets.

"Government does not suffer from debt. Do you have any idea about US Federal debt? Trillions and Trillions."

You sound like the crazy Charles T. Russell in the Studies of the Scriptures where he analyzed how much the world governments owned in 1880's.

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Will there ever be another campaign like the 2006 one with kn37 ("The End of False Religion Is Near!")?

by Magnum in

remember the 2006 tract campaign with kingdom news 37 - the end of false relgion is near!?

it seems to me that jwdom has changed to the point that there will not be anymore such campaigns.

it seems that the new rebranded jwdom is too soft for such a campaign; it's too feel-good, happy-clappy, and mainstream.. i just can't imagine a tract campaign like that coming from the new jwdom.

kaik

WT fails to understand than democracies around the world have guaranteed freedom of religion and worship established by constitution, and undemocratic regimes like Saudi Arabia have official state religion. Therefore, no attack on the religion would materialize from either groups.

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Jesus died for US...technically

by enigma1863 in

for god so loved the world he gave his only begotten son and then took him back.

that's not love, its a big legal loophole.

people have technically died in the past, and by the standards of diagnosing death in bible times you could definitely beat 48 hrs and return.

kaik

Ransom sacrifice of human life is foreigner to the Jewish faith; therefore, Christianity never made sense to Jews and is utterly rejected as nonsense. Another problem with the loophole in the Christianity is the bridge (Jesus) over the abyss (sin) to reach G-d. Judaism does not teach this concept because there is no mediator between anyone and the G-d. This was invented by Paul to make Jewish faith obsolete and provide salvation in the mind of the masses only through his invention. Lastly, why would G-d needs to pay a debt to Himself by sacrificing his son or 1/3rd of His existence...

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we are in the 3rd century of the end being sooo close!

by nowwhat? in

it started in the 1870's then throughout the 20th century.

and now here we are 15 years into the 21st century.

how many generations is that?

kaik

Considering my great-grandfather was born in the 1870's, I would say six.