Posts by kaik

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JW's just like Nazi SS troops?????

by Crazyguy in

is is not true that just like ss troops guarding and operating in a concentration camp jw's would just do whatever they are told?

ss troops were told to kill jews and most just went along with it without question.

it scares me to think that most jw's would go along with whatever they're told by their leaders without question..this is one of the reasons why i come here almost every day to see and read posts about whats going on in the religion, so i can be prepared to go save my family from this cult if i need to...

kaik

I am not sure about SS comparision. JW believes that the their G-d and his angels will do the mass killing and batches like in Babi Yar, and they will just idle by signing hoshana. In my hometown during WWII, Germans were killing Jews and partisans on the outskirt of the city where they had orchestra playing music, while the slaugher went on. JWs would be these musicians.

However, if the cult leader told them to kill themselves, they would. They would follow their leader. They want to suffer martyrdom in the name of the WT and many will not hesitate to kill themselves for the truth. They wasted their life for WT, they would end their life for lie of WT.

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Psychological Effects of Color

by RedPillPopper in

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for item #1 check out the color for trust.

totally ironic and you know the borg chose this on purpose.. .

http://goweloveit.info/entertainment/these-8-psychological-facts-will-help-you-understand-a-lot-more-about-life-5-is-a-game-changer/?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=referral.

kaik

I see JW individuals as gray. They dressed in gray colors, were living gray life. We used to call lonely JW females a gray mouse in KH. I associate the people with this color. Colors are also cultural. I lived in decade where red was not acceptable and there was total repulsion toward it due Soviet occupation. Later years with was sky blue or green as a symbol of political movements in 1990's. Pink used to be masculine color in the 18th century Europe all the way to the French revolution. Romans preferred purple or violet colors as a symbol of their wealth, while green is associated with Islam. For us guys, we have basic colors likes the 16 on old windows. Fuschia is flower that I plant in the spring. Peach is fruit, and pumpkin is veggie.. I do not associate it primary with the colors.

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What Made You Finally Wake Up?

by Tenacious in

hello to all.

i've been on this site for a couple of weeks now posting here and there but have not had the opportunity to read about many of the regular members and what led up to their leaving the wt.. i understand that some of you (i'm part of this club) may not be able to disclose many details and i can appreciate that.. i'd love to hear what was it that finally made you renounce what is and hopefully soon to be "was" the wt.. i truly look forward to having good discussions.. thank you to all for your kind participation.. .

kaik

Terry, thank you for sharing your experience. Touching. I was too small to remember 1975, except being told by my JW relatives that the end is near and I do not have to worry about school or anything else because the end is comming.

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How would YOU like to die - At home with your family, or in Hospital with Strangers

by fulltimestudent in

a big decision no one wants to make, but would you have a preference?.

and, i guess it may depend on what kind of relationship you have with your family.. .

kaik

JB, displaying open casket matter of personal opinion, cultural values, and traditions. I would never like to be paraded in the coffin, and I have seen a lot of open coffin funerals, some of them were not appropriate. We had a kid in the school that was run over by car. The family insisted having the funeral in the school, with open coffin, where his skull was visibly crushed and disfigured. Kids were throwing up all over, and teachers were running away; but parents stood there paying "respect".

I do not think dying in hospice is inhumane as comparision to long-term facility under ventilator. Many people go to hospital at the end stage case, because they do not know they will die there and they hope to die at home. My father went to hospital with his terminal cancer care to get treatment, he should be released two days later, but he died overnight unexpectedly. We did not know, so did he when I talked to him. You can also die in your bed at your house and be left there for days and weeks, before someone is going to miss you.

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But ... I cant see Jesus anywhere. The end for Iraqi Christians.

by fulltimestudent in

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pentecost 33 ce (well, maybe?).

when they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard their own language being spoken.

7 utterly amazed, they asked: arent all these who are speaking galileans?

kaik

Christianity was exterminated in much of the Middle East, and this is just continuation of the trend from the past. Tunis used to be a center of the Roman Catholicsm, where St. Augustine, Cyprian, and Vitus wrote their monumental work influencing Latin Christianity, in era, where Christains were still minority in Italy. This civilization parished long time ago. Similar fate happened to Christian communities in Yemen, Sudan, Iran, which had vital Christian civilization in the 500-1000 AD. Egyptian Christians are facing similar extermination as do Iraq' Christians. While most of the damage was done by Islam, it is crucial to say, that Orthodox Christianity was detrimental for expelling Churches of the East after Nestorian split and condemning all non-Greek christianity as heretic and many times supported Persians and Arabs to suppress them. Western world has share of the blame as well, not only having by GW allowing devastation of the Iraq's Christian community, but also with British, French, and Russian colonial powers who cared less about these churches in 19th and 20th century.

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How would YOU like to die - At home with your family, or in Hospital with Strangers

by fulltimestudent in

a big decision no one wants to make, but would you have a preference?.

and, i guess it may depend on what kind of relationship you have with your family.. .

kaik

My issue with dying at home is the sense of privacy. In ex-Czechoslovakia, many people used to die at home and the relatives had than had the body on displays for entire neigborhood to see. I was always disgusted with this prospect and I would rather die in hospital than be paraded in coffin. Once my neighbor died and the children had him brought out in the coffin right at the entrace of the appartment complex. It was summer, they had him there for entire day so everyone could "pay" the respect. The same when my great-grandfather died, it was in July, and they had him also in open coffin for like two days. I heard that he started to smell. Thanks that I was too small to remember it. After this my grandmother preferred to die in hospital. People should die with dignity, but sometimes it does not happen at home, and dying in hospital is not nice. Hospice care is probably the best at the end-state scenario.

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How would YOU like to die - At home with your family, or in Hospital with Strangers

by fulltimestudent in

a big decision no one wants to make, but would you have a preference?.

and, i guess it may depend on what kind of relationship you have with your family.. .

kaik

Nothing wrong to die in hospice... there is one in my hometown with view on castle and deep wood of the mountains in the background. Much better than stressing my family with dying at home.

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What Made You Finally Wake Up?

by Tenacious in

hello to all.

i've been on this site for a couple of weeks now posting here and there but have not had the opportunity to read about many of the regular members and what led up to their leaving the wt.. i understand that some of you (i'm part of this club) may not be able to disclose many details and i can appreciate that.. i'd love to hear what was it that finally made you renounce what is and hopefully soon to be "was" the wt.. i truly look forward to having good discussions.. thank you to all for your kind participation.. .

kaik

For me it was book Revelation, It is grand climax at the hand. We studied this book around 1992-1993 and I thought it was all BS. It was not making any sense. Some unimportant conventions in 1920's in place that I could not find on map represented the trumphets, and other nonsense that confirmed me that it was false religion with invented theology that I walked away right after the book study was over.

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Anyone been to a psychic? Id love to ask about JWs future.

by jemba in

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ive been to an eerily accurate psychic who got so many things right.

i dont believe in god but i definitely believe in a spirit world.

if you have been to a psychic who has been accurate have you ever asked about the future of jws?

kaik

EoM, yes it was true to the point. I went to business trip into Ukraine via Slovakia and Poland. We stopped at northeastern Carpathian mountains where I saw a store with a tarot cards. There was not much else to buy, so I bought a pack of tatot cards, they were nicely medieval style. The guy offered me the psychic reading for free, because I bought items in his place and I agreed, what the heck. It did not last too long. He placed the tarot cards on the table, and did some bs talks that are generic, etc, but he put on the side several cards... which one he said represented my father recently passed (~1 year) and I still mourn him. He told me that my mom tries to date a guy, but he is a bad man and warn me to help me to stop her from doing it. He also told me that my grandmother was alive from my dad site, but she will die shortly. And warned me on two women who will be big headache to my family. Both would be relatives. One was JW aunt who was spreading rumors that were hurtfull, and other aunt, sister of my dad was sueing us for his inheritence. The lawsuit was lasting for two years. How he could knew it all, I do not know. I was in different country seing this old man for the first time. Yet, he knew about the lawsuit, my granny to be alive, my mom who did not want to be widow... This is only psychic reading I have done.

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Anyone been to a psychic? Id love to ask about JWs future.

by jemba in

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friends

ive been to an eerily accurate psychic who got so many things right.

i dont believe in god but i definitely believe in a spirit world.

if you have been to a psychic who has been accurate have you ever asked about the future of jws?

kaik

I actually went once, which was interesting experience. The psychic used tarot cards. I do not think anything spiritual behind it, but I was suprised that person knew things about my life, like my father was recently dead, and my mom was dating a guy who will be a disaster - which was. He also said that my JW aunt was evil and scheming against us with other relative over my father inheritance. This was a problem for years and true do the point.